New Hampshire: Grandmother Arrested, Dog Impounded Over Old Parking Tickets

theNewspaper.com ^ | 04/03/2008 | n/a

[marktwain]

“Hence the universal love that police have for victim disarmament laws”

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Only one problem with this statement. It is false. Sure, most big city police Chiefs tow the party line that “gun control” is a good idea. But the vast majority of street cops don’t like it. And, as more of them have witnessed concealed carry going into effect in most states, many of the Chiefs have even become positive about it.

[zeugma]

Now one begins to understand Carl Drega's actions a bit better. You'd think that the JBT's would learn.

I am constantly amazed that there aren't more of them. I wouldn't shed a tear. 

[zeugma]

However, I had a speeding ticket from 15 years ago from another State that I thought I had payed show up in the system. I couldn't renew my license till I payed it.

That's why you should keep such checks in a special place forever. All levels of government in this country are criminal organizations. 

[BluH2o]

A recent article I read had to do with a new technology police scanner mounted in squad cars that scanned license plates. The device, upon getting a hit on a plate, alerted the officer. Typically it had to do with outstanding warrants, stolen plates or cars. These scanners are becoming more prevalent ... could it be the Portsmouth, NH police have the scanners?

[andy58-in-nh]

Portsmouth is one of the liberal bastions of New Hampshire, so it comes as no surprise that its “public servants” might have fascistic tendencies. One of the classic signs that your government has been taken over by Liberal Fascists is when petty offenses are elevated to the status of felonies, and the offenders are pursued with equal fervor. Unfortunately, that’s what seems to be happening here in the Granite State.

[from occupied ga]

Only one problem with this statement. It is false.

Oh really? It's not false at all. Just how many cops do you know that would not enforce gun laws with just as much vigor as they enforce everything else? Guess how many New York cops quit when they were asked to unconstitutionally seize previously registered semiautos in the early 90's (hint that would be none.) I hear about once a week in the media from various police sources how "we have to get guns off the streets" I guess you're talking about the famous "silent majority" that never makes its opinions heard.

[from occupied ga]

I wouldn't shed a tear.

Just wait until president Obama issues an executive order to start confiscating firearms.

[Ken H]

But the vast majority of street cops don't like it.

What are you basing that on?

[marktwain]

Marktwain Posted:
“But the vast majority of street cops don't like it.”

Ken H. replied:
“What are you basing that on?”

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There have been a number of pols done over the years. What I have personally seen is that the older generation understands how useful guns are to ordinary citizens in fighting crime. Newer recruits have often been propagandized in their academy training against guns, but experience seems to work in our favor over time.

I have seen a number of articles with quotes from police chiefs that opposed concealed carry in their states, that later said that they had changed their mind, and that citizens carrying concealed guns had worked out quite well.

[marktwain]

“Oh really? It's not false at all. Just how many cops do you know that would not enforce gun laws with just as much vigor as they enforce everything else? Guess how many New York cops quit when they were asked to unconstitutionally seize previously registered semiautos in the early 90’s (hint that would be none.) I hear about once a week in the media from various police sources how “we have to get guns off the streets” I guess you're talking about the famous “silent majority” that never makes its opinions heard.”

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There is a big difference between being opposed to a policy and risking your entire career and livelihood by defying orders or by giving political statements to the press that disagree with your bosses.

Most of the “we have to get guns off the street” talk is from politically appointed police chiefs or their spokesmen in the big, anti-gun cities.

[marktwain]

Here is a link to a site that discusses cases where citizens with concealed weapons came to the aid of police. They don't even mention the locally famous case or Roary Vertigan in Arizona.

This doesn't get any press in the MSM, but police officers on the street pay a lot of attention to this kind of thing.

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/ccw/officer_peril.htm

[from occupied ga]

There is a big difference between being opposed to a policy and risking your entire career and livelihood by defying orders or by giving political statements to the press that disagree with your bosses.

Well if you disagree with it, but you implement it anyway, then you really don't disagree all that much. "I was just following orders" isn't much of an excuse.

[from occupied ga]

Germain to our discussion

is this article Look at the pictures. You will notice it isn't the chief that's posing with the empty rocket launcher, but one of th rank and file types whom you mistakenly believe are for gun right sfor citizens.

[marktwain]

“Look at the pictures. You will notice it isn't the chief that's posing with the empty rocket launcher, but one of th rank and file types whom you mistakenly believe are for gun right sfor citizens.”

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I don't think any serious person would claim that *all* rank and file police are for gun rights for citizens. There have also been some cases where police were ordered to serve as backdrops for anti-gun rights rallies, even though they were progun themselves.

I also think that few citizens, even those favoring a good deal of citizen armament, would believe that criminal ownership of rocket launchers is a good thing. I don't expect most police to be 2nd Amendment activists, though perhaps, given their oath, they should be. I did not claim that. I only claimed that most police are positive about armed citizens and do not want to see the citizenry disarmed.

We probably agree about much, but what I have read over the years and my personal experience is that there is a considerable gulf between police chiefs and the police on the street on this subject.

[from occupied ga]

We probably agree about much, but what I have read over the years and my personal experience is that there is a considerable gulf between police chiefs and the police on the street on this subject

At one time I believe this was true - maybe 40 - 50 years ago. Now however, I just don't see it. I was at an MG shoot and a couple of sheriff's deputys came by to see what was making all of the noise. One was an old guy - mid 50s and another was mid 20's the difference in their attitudes was astonishing The younger one was pissed of that he couldn't arrest us for something and the older one wanted to fire a few rounds and have his picture taken doing it. This was about 10 years ago.

[rednesss]

Someone messed with ole Marvin a little too much as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

Gotta admire his skills and fabrication abilities.

[marktwain]

“One was an old guy - mid 50s and another was mid 20’s the difference in their attitudes was astonishing”

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This is a disturbing trend, and I have seen it as well. The Libs have definitely taken over the education system. I still think that a large majority of the officers on the street support an armed citizenry.

[zeugma]

Someone messed with ole Marvin a little too much as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

Gotta admire his skills and fabrication abilities.

 

Somehow I missed that one.

Given the way things work in this coutry, it's amazing it doesn't happen more often. 

[marktwain]

Thanks for the link. Fascinating stuff. One can only think that duels may have served a useful purpose.