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To: mkjessup

> Saying the Communists were on the right side of anything is the height of stupidity.

That’s an even stupider thing to say.

There were a fair few communists fighting on the side of the Free French. There were even more fighting with Tito against the Nazis. Were they on the wrong side?

And why was it that the US sent untold bucketloads of weaponry to prop up Stalin against Hitler? Was the US supporting the wrong side?

> Look in the mirror, clown.

You first, Bozo.


16 posted on 04/04/2008 3:34:53 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter; All

Well, looks like we’ve got a live one here.

You fail to understand that Communists in the 20’s and 30’s were nothing more than sockpuppets of their ideological masters in Moscow, i.e., Lenin and Stalin. If they were ‘aligned’ with the Free French, it was pure opportunism and you ought to know that. As for Tito, he was a Communist first, his alleged ‘independence’ from Moscow not withstanding.

The Communists you cite were ALL on the wrong side, because at their core they were on STALIN’s side, and that IS the wrong side if you’ll give your head a shake and wake up those slumbering neurons up there.

As for the U.S. supporting Stalin against Hitler? You better damn well believe that was a mistake, we should have hung Stalin out to dry because the historical record demonstrates that Stalin was in fact even more of a genocidal murderer than Hitler was, something that doesn’t get talked about very much. The fact is, Hitler screwed up after launching Operation Barbarossa by not treating the Soviet civilians with even a minimum of respect, because many Russians welcomed the invading German troops as liberators, not as conquerers. Naturally, once the Nazis started butchering them they rallied to Uncle Joe and ‘Mother Russia’ and the rest is history. The reason the U.S. opened the floodgates of lend lease to the Soviet Union was because FDR’s administration was shot through with Communists, and his own Vice President (Henry Wallace) was the epitome of a ‘useful idiot’ (as Communists define the term), thank God that f’in goofball got dropped from the ticket in ‘44.

What you need pal, is to refresh yourself with the history of Communism, which ranks right up there with Islamofascism as the deadliest man-made political virus ever unleashed upon the Earth.

The only good Communist is a dead Communist. Learn it. Know it. Don’t forget it.


18 posted on 04/04/2008 3:49:34 AM PDT by mkjessup (This year's presidential choices: "Speak No Evil, See No Evil, and Evil")
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To: DieHard the Hunter; mkjessup
You guys are messing up the time-line.

Note ~ in the early period, when the Commies (under Stalin's orders) tried to take over Spain, Stalin was pretty busy having show-trials and purges.

Eventually he found himself involved in a series of wars with Finland. The Finns kicked Russian a$$.

All of this stuff was fairly distracting to the Red Army ~ probably one of the reasons Hitler and Stalin concluded a non-aggression treaty (and divided Poland between then).

Eventually, the "distractions" dried up and the Germans attacked the Russians about a month before the Russians had decided to attack the Germans.

Events in Spain were a mere sideshow compared to the main event which became called WWII.

At the same time, from the Swedish perspective, the Winter War and Continuation War in Finland allowed them to beef up and maintain neutrality ~ while the Finns rebuilt (while rehousing about half a milion refugees, no small thing in a small country).

Taking everything in context, the two great Socialist powers in Europe ~ the Nazis and the Commies ~ sought hegemony. They took many down with them. Only a few succeeded in making it through that period fairly intact in their traditions, customs, laws and geography.

35 posted on 04/04/2008 6:17:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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