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World needs more CO2, environment confab told
WND ^ | April 5, 2005 | unknown

Posted on 04/05/2008 6:29:27 AM PDT by kindred

You could have heard a pin drop at the Hong Kong conference designed to persuade the airline industry to cut back on its production of so-called greenhouse gases to fight "global warming."

The "Greener Skies 2008" conference had just heard from David Archibald, a solar scientist asserting that climate change is mostly dictated by solar cycles, not carbon dioxide levels, as conventional wisdom suggests.

Archibald didn't just tell the group not to worry about carbon dioxide emissions. He told those gathered they should figure out ways of increasing CO2 output.

"In a few short years, we will have a reversal of the warming of the 20th century," Archibald warned, according to CargoNews Asia. "There will be significant cooling very soon. Our generation has known a warm, giving sun, but the new generation will suffer a sun that is less giving, and the earth will be less fruitful. Carbon dioxide is not even a little bit bad – it's wholly beneficial."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: c02; climatechange; globalcooling; more
The whold global warming scam is but an attempt to unify the sovereign nations of the world into the coming one evil world government and only the small minded would believe politicians, much less trust government to tell the truth about anything.
1 posted on 04/05/2008 6:29:27 AM PDT by kindred
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To: kindred

The real Global Warming agenda: just keep the grant money flowing.


2 posted on 04/05/2008 6:31:29 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: 6SJ7

[: just keep the grant money flowing.]

Indeed, but it is more sinister than that. The government has gone over into total corruption and now uses the global warming scam and homosexual corruption and hate crime legislation to destroy the Constituional rights of American citizens. It is much worse than loving money I think.


3 posted on 04/05/2008 6:36:05 AM PDT by kindred (He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.)
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To: 6SJ7

Archibald for president!


4 posted on 04/05/2008 6:36:55 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: kindred; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

New!!: Dr. John Ray's
GREENIE WATCH

The Great Global Warming Swindle Video - back on the net!! (click here)

Ping me if you find one I've missed.


Go figure....
5 posted on 04/05/2008 6:38:32 AM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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To: kindred

Carbon dioxide is not even a little bit bad – it’s wholly beneficial.”

It is what plant life thrives on. Without it mankind will not/cannot survive.


6 posted on 04/05/2008 6:38:44 AM PDT by chainsaw ( No black racist Muslims in the WH.)
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To: jpsb
Archibald for president!

It would be a blessing, to not have to vote for the detestable McCain.
7 posted on 04/05/2008 6:41:01 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: kindred

http://cdbaby.com/cd/darchibald2


8 posted on 04/05/2008 6:42:45 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("a wee bit silly." -Lord Trimble on Hillary Clinton's claim of foreign policy "experience".)
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To: ZX12R

I agree 100% but IMO islamic fascism is just too great a threat to set this one out.

On topic I would have loved to have seen the faces of these elitists when this little bit of truth exploded in their little cocoon.


9 posted on 04/05/2008 6:45:05 AM PDT by federal
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To: 6SJ7

The term “climate change” is an old Indian phrase. Loosely translated, it means “Send us your money”


10 posted on 04/05/2008 6:46:32 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: kindred

All life is carbon based. Why has carbon become such a bad thing given that all life is carbon based?


11 posted on 04/05/2008 6:47:14 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: kindred

Why don’t they go buy some CO2. Its at the same place you buy those carbon credits. I have a whole empty warehouse full of the stuff.


12 posted on 04/05/2008 6:47:20 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: o_zarkman44

[Why has carbon become such a bad thing given that all life is carbon based?]

Probably nothing, but it would seem that the educated fools of the leftist world global warming scam will believe anything their leftist junk science teachers feed them.


13 posted on 04/05/2008 6:50:33 AM PDT by kindred (He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.)
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To: kindred
I caught a segment of some radio show that had alex on for a bit. He was talking about the proof that we actualy need more Co2. Went to his sight and found he had posted this...

Top UN scientists have been forced to admit that natural weather occurrences are having a far greater effect on climate change than CO2 emissions as a continued cooling trend means there has been no global warming since 1998.

It goes on to say...

Global temperatures have remained reasonably flat since a decline in 1998 and cooling trends are now being observed despite the fact that carbon dioxide levels have increased in the atmosphere (see graph below).

Indeed, the latest evidence from climatological surveys shows that the earth’s upper oceans and the troposphere, the primary indicators of climate change, have not been warming for the last four years.

On the whole, the world is getting colder (see above), which is why "global warming" suddenly became "climate change" when temperature levels since 2003 started to prove the alarmists wrong.

Carbon emissions have never driven climate change because as ice core samples clearly show, carbon dioxide is a consequence of temperature increase and not a cause of it, sometimes lagging behind by as much as 800 years.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=1287

14 posted on 04/05/2008 6:52:13 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: kindred

I’m sure that I’m not the only one wo has noticed the increasingly desperate and shrill attempts to silence the real science. The AGW scammers know their number is up, and soon. Too bad for them that the truth does always win out in the end. Looks like it is going to sooner than I thought, though.

The real questions are (1) how do we use this to really stick it to the libe and (2) how can we use this to rack up some serious cash like Al Gore did the AGW scam?


15 posted on 04/05/2008 6:53:15 AM PDT by piytar
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To: TLI

I wish someone would ask John McCain for his rationale in choosing to join the Global Warming Parade.


16 posted on 04/05/2008 6:55:03 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: federal
On topic I would have loved to have seen the faces of these elitists when this little bit of truth exploded in their little cocoon.

I can just imagine the rancorous murmur and mumblings, with the hushed and repeated word...heretic...heretic.
17 posted on 04/05/2008 6:57:31 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: jpsb
YES!!!

Archibald/Coleman - Pres/VP

John Coleman - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922411/posts

18 posted on 04/05/2008 7:00:38 AM PDT by NordP (Yeah...Clinton didn't inhale and Obama didn't know 'nothin' 'bout Rev Wright bein' wrong)
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To: ZX12R
I can just imagine the rancorous murmur and mumblings, with the hushed and repeated word...heretic...heretic. I'm laughing just thinking about it, I would pay to see a video of the scene. But we know the elitists don't like filming when they make their decisions about what is best for the serfs.
19 posted on 04/05/2008 7:04:52 AM PDT by federal
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To: kindred

Careful—I think this guy’s a Darwinist.


20 posted on 04/05/2008 7:07:15 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Who's worried about the Bolsheviks? They couldn't be worse than the Tsar!)
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To: 6SJ7

You mean like AL Gore’s flying around in private jets, living in 10K sq ft house with $2400 a month heating bills, spending that $300 million he just announced he is spending to spread the hoax!

FOLLOW THE MONEY


21 posted on 04/05/2008 7:13:39 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming/Climate Change - the biggest hoax/fraud/deception of the 21st century.)
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To: ZX12R

I will have a very hard time pulling the lever for the globalist open borders McCain. Don’t think I can do it.


22 posted on 04/05/2008 7:13:53 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: kindred

Whay I found most interesting about his presentation was his graph on CO2 emissions from US, Australia, and Chine. He predicted that China would surpass US in CO2 emissions in 2009 and be double that of US in 2016. Since we know China passed US in CO2 in either 2006 or 2007, then they will be producing double US probably by 2013 or 2014.

The implications of this are huge. All the envirowackos in the USA are strangling our economy while China will refuse to cut their CO2 by claiming they are a ‘develpoung’ country and thus not subject to these rules. After 10 years or so we will have so screwed our economy that we will be the third world country and China will own us.


23 posted on 04/05/2008 7:14:15 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: jpsb
I will have a very hard time pulling the lever for the globalist open borders McCain. Don’t think I can do it.

Believe me, I can understand that.
24 posted on 04/05/2008 7:17:47 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: chainsaw
“It is what plant life thrives on.”

Horticulturists commonly increase the amount of CO2 in their greenhouses, which makes for larger plants, fruits, & flowers. The greenhouses must be aired out prior to entry, as plants can handle much more CO2 than humans.

Al Gore & his ilk are simply out to make a buck!

A lie is easier to sell & more profitable than the truth.

25 posted on 04/05/2008 7:19:56 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: piytar
The real questions are (1) how do we use this to really stick it to the libe and (2) how can we use this to rack up some serious cash like Al Gore did the AGW scam?

Start a market in carbonless credits....make them 10 times the cost of carbon credits and require 10 carbonless credits to be purchased to "offset" each carbon credit previously purchased. ;-)

Of course, carbonless credits will also need to be purchased by owners of hybrid cars, solar panels, etc...and anyone who has ever donated to PETA, Greenpeace, MoveOn, etc. The possibility for profit is endless because we're doing it "for Mother Earth" and "for the children. 

26 posted on 04/05/2008 7:20:35 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Vote for the Dim in the primaries that leads to a brokered convention and chaos)
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To: kindred

“After Archibald’s speech, Martin Craigs, president of Aerospace Forum Asia, went to the microphone and asked: “Don’t you have Al Gore’s e-mail address?” “How can you be right and 2,000 scientists wrong?”

Archibald replied: “I am happy to share the science. It’s all reputable.”

It’s because those 2,000 scientists aren’t really objective scientists at all but rather alarmists whose research grants depend upon scaremongering and creating some sense of impending doom.


27 posted on 04/05/2008 7:21:28 AM PDT by bereanway (Hunter in '08)
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To: kindred

My brother told me about a little experiment you can do with your kids, or anyone skeptical about whether or not the release of Carbon Dioxide causes warming ... or could it be the other way around, warming causes slight increases in Carbon Dioxide?

Open two carbonated sodas (ie: Coke). Leave one sitting on the table at room temperature. Sit the other in the refrigerator. After 12 hours or so, take a sip from each to see that the Coke at warmer room temperature now has less “fizz” or carbon dioxide left in it than the Coke kept in the colder frig.

Conclude that when opened, the Coke begins to loose its Carbon dioxide (fizz) into the air. Warmer air caused more carbon dioxide to release.

So when the stats show that we have raised Carbon Dioxide levels in the atmosphere today, is that causing the warmer weather, or is it the other way around, warmer weather (caused perhaps by greater sun activity) causes the rise in Carbon Dioxide?


28 posted on 04/05/2008 7:24:54 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy
So when the stats show that we have raised Carbon Dioxide levels in the atmosphere today, is that causing the warmer weather, or is it the other way around, warmer weather (caused perhaps by greater sun activity) causes the rise in Carbon Dioxide?

Al Gore knows could explain all of this:

The Coke that you left out on the counter released CO2 into the atmosphere causing the Coke bottle to warm. Otherwise it would have stayed just as cold as the one in the Fridge. And you should be forced to buy Carbon Credits from Al Gore's company to cover the damage that your Coke did to the environment.

29 posted on 04/05/2008 7:29:40 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: kindred; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Defendingliberty; WL-law; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views

30 posted on 04/05/2008 7:30:35 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: kindred
"In a few short years, we will have a reversal of the warming of the 20th century," Archibald warned, according to CargoNews Asia. "There will be significant cooling very soon."

Algore and his disciples don't have much time before either the climate does as Archibald says and/or enough of our fellow humans with common sense and a willingness to use it come to a consensus and realize we're being scammed. Sadly, common sense ain't too common.

31 posted on 04/05/2008 7:49:51 AM PDT by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: o_zarkman44
Because it is exhaled by human beings, and greens want mankind to go extinct.
32 posted on 04/05/2008 8:17:14 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: kindred

so does that mean Gore has to trade his Peace Prize in for the War Prize? What a mixed up world we live in.


33 posted on 04/05/2008 8:18:47 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey ( Obama will keep Black Americans on the Democrats Economic Plantation.)
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To: kindred

Surprising the fellow making these assertions was not stoned where he stood. Perhaps only because of lack of access to a sizable supply of stones.

But he is in for a good sound verbal drubbing later on, as the nattering class recovers their prejudices and equilibrium, and continues to press their agenda.


34 posted on 04/05/2008 8:26:00 AM PDT by alloysteel (Living at large as a toxic curiosity since 1962)
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To: buffyt

You know, I am also starting to wonder who else might get a piece of the carbon credit scam. Billions will be changing hands in the process. Makes you wonder why there is a push in Congress to pass that legislation. Manmade global warming is junk science as I see it. I don’t know, just looks suspicious to me now.


35 posted on 04/05/2008 8:59:41 AM PDT by Blue_Spark
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To: kindred

You’re right. It’s not just the money, though those depending on the GW scam make boatloads of money off of it.

It’s about shutting down individual liberty. It’s what socialists hate the most in this world. Free people making free choices.

GW is the (so far) perfect mechanism for pushing socialism on a global population that’s a bit leery of schemes coming from the likes of Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Castro and a hundred other tin-pot socialist schemers.


36 posted on 04/05/2008 12:06:34 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: kindred

OK to start breathing again??


37 posted on 04/05/2008 1:25:51 PM PDT by Waco
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