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Exclusive: French warship diverted to free luxury yacht crew seized by pirates off Somalia
Debka.com ^ | April 5, 2008

Posted on 04/05/2008 7:39:50 AM PDT by HAL9000

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To: grey_whiskers

Hilarious


81 posted on 04/05/2008 2:39:15 PM PDT by LSUfan
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To: Timmy; All
"...what's a "French warship" look like?..."

Pictured here is the France's Poodle-class warship "Redditon" [French for 'Surrender'] with crew of 5 entering port to be painted white before deployment to Somalia to take on the pirates.


82 posted on 04/05/2008 2:40:40 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (I'm Republican because I don't qualify for welfare)
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To: Alter Kaker

The attack in the article is not yet up on the IMDB Live Piracy Map: http://www.icc-ccs.org/extra/display.php?yr=2008. but it seems to me that with the quantity of traffic in that area, it would be sensible to provide IR night and day satellite monitoring of all vessels in the area. Most of the attacks shown were not coastal, but mid-channel.

Also, mercenary armament packs and crews could be made available to ships making the passage, transferring from incoming to outgoing vessels in the danger zone, in a revolving door tactic. It wouldn’t take many pirate vessel sinkings to discourage attacks. What would be the cost compared to the loss of a multi-million dollar vessel or ransom money or crew lives? Insurers should be vetting this situation a bit harder. The maritime agencies of the shipper nations could be putting their heads together more effectively.


83 posted on 04/05/2008 3:41:31 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: OnRightOnLeftCoast
> Pictured here is the France's Poodle-class warship "Redditon" [French for 'Surrender'] with crew of 5 entering port to be painted white before deployment to Somalia to take on the pirates.

So why does it say "US Navy" on the front bumper? It's probably one of your warships intercepting Cuban and Haitian refugees off the Florida coast.


84 posted on 04/05/2008 3:46:47 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Enchante

Yah, I caught that just after I posted. (forehead slapping sound). Just the same, a choke point such as this with a high volume of traffic could be made safe. If the shippers are too cheap to provide security, the insurers should be doing at least that as well as pressuring maritime agencies to put their heads together. Having effective radar watches can catch approaching vessels from 50-100 miles distance. Coded ID could be issued the captains of every legitimate vessel in the area. Any boat attempting to appear as normal passing traffic without a code would be suspect. Problem is many ships travel at night on autopilot with no one at the helm or on radar or deck watch, being kept short-handed as an economy measure..


85 posted on 04/05/2008 3:50:27 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Kenny Bunk; LS; Jeff Head; Southack; Emperor Palpatine; HAL9000

Maritime/historian ping re: the French alliance with the USA.


86 posted on 04/05/2008 8:23:28 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

One of my coworkers is from New Zealand and he told me that the main reason NZ didn’t send any troops to assist in the Falklands War was the outboard on their troop transport was broken.


87 posted on 04/05/2008 8:29:12 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
You are very observant...lend-lease program that's why USN on there.
88 posted on 04/05/2008 9:30:32 PM PDT by OnRightOnLeftCoast (I'm Republican because I don't qualify for welfare)
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To: Strategerist
These guys have no particular political goal, simply the making of money.

Exactly. I operated with CTF 150 two years ago. These guy are all about holding the crews and vessels hostage for ransom. There is concern that in the future they could actively assist terrorists but that is not what they doing now.

89 posted on 04/05/2008 11:43:49 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
“Also, mercenary armament packs and crews could be made available to ships making the passage, transferring from incoming to outgoing vessels in the danger zone, in a revolving door tactic.”

I like the way that you think. There is a real opportunity here for a good capitalist. Off hand, I don't see a good base of operations, however. I shouldn't be too hard to obtain weapons. Perhaps commissions in the Panamanian navy could be secured.
90 posted on 04/06/2008 5:53:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: GATOR NAVY

Exactly. I operated with CTF 150 two years ago. These guy are all about holding the crews and vessels hostage for ransom. There is concern that in the future they could actively assist terrorists but that is not what they doing now.


Then it duplicates much of the situation of the Barbary coast 200 years ago.


91 posted on 04/06/2008 5:55:58 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: xone
In order to hit anything, the Predator would be in range of the guns of the pirates.

Trying to hit a rapidly moving target at a range of 200 yards or more, using an AK, while sitting in a bobbing and rolling boat, is much harder than you might think. Especially for people who aren't marksmen in the first place

In WW2, navy ships had to pretty much fill the sky with lead to bring down strafing planes

92 posted on 04/06/2008 8:50:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: marktwain
Djibouti, Aden, Jedah, Suez? For shipping further down the East African coast, Mombassa...

Would say Socotra, but the enviros would howl.

93 posted on 04/06/2008 8:52:20 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
“Djibouti, Aden, Jedah, Suez? For shipping further down the East African coast, Mombassa...”

I was thinking in political terms. Would the countries these ports belong to accept a mercenary force? Perhaps...
94 posted on 04/06/2008 12:26:01 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: PapaBear3625
In WW2, navy ships had to pretty much fill the sky with lead to bring down strafing planes

And what were those strafing planes airspeed? They also had a human in them so their SA is in the here and now, not through a datalink.

bobbing and rolling boat, is much harder than you might think.

The same would be true for the guy in Nellis working through a datalink to bring guns to bear. I could buy a Hellfire, but that would be way to expensive, the reload would mean little coverage. And there ain't no way the US is going to be blowing up $1000 dollar boats with Hellfires without something better in them than your average Somali pirate.

95 posted on 04/06/2008 4:52:57 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone

How about an AC-130 just doing a run along the coast blowing away every little boat it sees?


96 posted on 04/06/2008 5:41:18 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625
How about an AC-130 just doing a run along the coast blowing away every little boat it sees?

Less of a problem with that, but there are only 25 of them. Rather kill terrorists in Iraq an Afghanistan with them because they are a force protection asset. Getting rid of Somali pirates this way is about the same as getting rid of Mecca, not going to happen.

97 posted on 04/06/2008 6:14:36 PM PDT by xone
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To: HAL9000
Looks a little cramped to me...

jas3


98 posted on 04/06/2008 7:28:58 PM PDT by jas3
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To: Slump Tester

It would have been nice if they sent something that would at least SCARE the pirates.

Ah, Jeez..You only wanted them SCARED ? Blast, we might have might have pushed the envelope a bit, and decided to kill half of them.

Elderly looking or not, the Commandant Bouan apparently did her job quite well, along with the French troops so many posters felt free to insult, wouldn’t you say ?


99 posted on 04/15/2008 8:08:18 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend
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