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Limited Nuclear War Would Decimate Ozone Layer
New Scientist ^
| Catherine Brahic
Posted on 04/07/2008 2:21:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
The effects of nuclear war are exaggerated to the extreme. We dropped two of them on the Japanese and now there are more of them than ever. /s
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:45:10 PM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: CougarGA7
Not to mention the AEC was really pissing Eastman Kodak off. Now that we've gone digital, smoke 'em if you got 'em!
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:45:39 PM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
To: WorkerbeeCitizen
"The figure of 100 Hiroshima-sized bombs compares pretty accurately to the approximately 110 warheads that both states reportedly possess between them," agrees Wyn Bowen, professor of non-proliferation and international security in the War Studies Group at King's College, UK. Publishing in the "_New Politician_".
Let's try adding a tiny bit of simple arithmatic to one of these articles, for once.
100 Hiroshima type bombs is about 1.5 Megatons.
The Bikini Test in 1954 had a calculated yeild of 5 Megatons, but actually yeilded 14.5 Megatons. Teller was embarrassed-A little, but promptly got over it.
The Russians later detonated the Царь-бомба yeildng 50 MT, or to put it cutely, 333.3 Hiroshima-yield bombs in one explosion.
These were two tests. From the early '50's to the present, how many devices were detonated by all nations? And of what yeilds?
Bah.
To: Tijeras_Slim
I dont know. Radiation is not so good for CCDs either.
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:47:49 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
(Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
To: metesky
We dropped two of them on the Japanese and now there are more of them than ever Not even really a joke. Albeit, those were small yield bombs, the whole myth that they pollute the land for ten thousand years is debunked. Both cities are far larger now than they were before and the effects of radiation have long since passed (cleared well within that generation.)
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:48:00 PM PDT
by
mnehring
To: blam
Gee, and how much ozone was depleted when Hussein lit up all those oil wells in Kuwait?
Oh, that’s right—the Earth survived that, and Krakatoa, too.
Amazing planet we have. Much more resilient than the enviroweenies can imagine.
I’ll listen to the environazis when they yell at Red China and India for the majority of the air pollution on the planet.
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:49:05 PM PDT
by
exit82
(People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
To: Gorzaloon
Didn’t the Russians test at least one 200+ megaton bomb?
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:49:06 PM PDT
by
mnehring
To: Tijeras_Slim
Hardtack I in 1958 tested 35 devices in the Pacific, many of which were megaton range. ....and notice that there are NO MORE Indian elephants there nowadays...
Coincidence?
I think not.
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posted on
04/07/2008 2:59:14 PM PDT
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: ArrogantBustard
Nuclear Winter, the cure for Global Warmong :-)
To: blam
Does anyone know if there was ever a time when there was no ozone hole over the Antarctic?
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:04:18 PM PDT
by
wolfpat
(If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
To: mnehrling
The 50 MT bomb was a “detuned” version of a 100 MT. Although you could make a 200 MT bomb, it would be useless in any real sense.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:04:31 PM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
To: mnehrling
October 1961, Tsar Bomba, 50 MT.
#2, Castle Bravo, 15 MT, US, lithium-deuteride fuelled and on the Bikini Atoll.
The Soviets had plans for a 100 MT weapon, but near as I can tell never tested it.
Have fun.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:04:56 PM PDT
by
ASOC
(I know I don't look like much, but I raised a US Marine!)
To: blam
A few years ago it was suppose to be nuclear winter... then that turned out to be bogus. This will too.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:07:07 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(Wall Street game: Privatize profits and socialize losses.Freeper Mad_Tom_Rackham)
To: w1andsodidwe
As a kid, I used to have a bandage box full of seashells that my uncle picked up from one of those islands before it was detonated. Wonder what ever happened to them?
Probably still glowing somewhere.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:07:16 PM PDT
by
tet68
( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
To: Tijeras_Slim
If I understand the mechanism correctly, there's really no
theoretical limit on the size of Thermonuclear bomb one could build ... it's all engineering and logistics.
Practical usability is another matter.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:08:22 PM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: GOPJ
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:11:24 PM PDT
by
blam
(Secure the border and enforce the law)
To: ArrogantBustard
Yep.
There is a limit on fission devices, given that you can only pack so much material in a useable form before it goes critical spontaneously.
Ivy King was a fission device, and it yielded 500 KT, the largest we ever tested.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:11:42 PM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
To: ArrogantBustard; Tijeras_Slim
TS would know better than I, but I think not reaching critical mass with the static device is the deciding factor on how big you can go.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:13:02 PM PDT
by
CougarGA7
(Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
To: blam
amazing how a science magazine doesn't know the difference between decimate and devastate...
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:17:32 PM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: mnehrling
I didn’t mean it as a joke, although I can see how my formulation could be misinterpreted.
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posted on
04/07/2008 3:18:22 PM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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