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Message on shirt: 'I was raped'
KOMO ^ | 04-05-08

Posted on 04/07/2008 2:38:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: wolfpat
to put this on a t-shirt seems to be displaying pride in it.

You hit the nail on the head. We live in a society of "victims". To the Left, if you are not a victim or someone or something, your life has no meaning.

41 posted on 04/07/2008 4:32:50 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Gaffer
I see it as a desperate need to convey the sense of pure violation experience and a need to stop it.

But what is the reader supposed to DO about it? Just say "ah, gee, that's too bad"...? It seems a bit artificial as some kind of proud announcement of survival. Sure, surviving a rape and not subsequently losing control of one's whole life may be something that indicates a strength of character. But to then need to announce it to everyone you meet... well... it'll certainly be awkward.

Seems like it is merely a way to force other people you don't know to be uneasy in your presence. It sets the agenda for what you want them to think about. Forces it. It's an aggressive and pushy, almost arrogant attitude.

If something like that ever happened to me, whether or not I ever become at ease enough to discuss it with people, I'm pretty sure it's not the first thing I would want people to know about me.

42 posted on 04/07/2008 4:33:16 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Kimmers

http://fusilly.com/shop/irs-not-happy-p-125.html?currency=EUR


43 posted on 04/07/2008 4:33:32 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Hyzenthlay
I think that any woman who would wear a t-shirt like that is really really brave, and probably doing a heck of a lot to raise awareness of the issue.

To raise awareness? Are you under the impression that most people have no idea that rape occurs? If you are, let me assure you, people know.

I would like to see the companion T-shirt for men: "I was falsely accused of rape by some lying whore."

We can send a box of them to Duke.
44 posted on 04/07/2008 4:44:15 PM PDT by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm)
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To: Kimmers

Print the IRS logo onto iron-on transfer paper, with the print, for 1/3 the cost.


45 posted on 04/07/2008 4:48:34 PM PDT by MaxMax (It's not the politics I despise, It's the politicians for being so stupid..)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I do not like the T-shirt either. I think that a woman who wants support can find it in other ways. HOWEVER, I was taken aback by your very angry attitude towards rape victims. Why? I was raped. It was more than 20 years ago, and I knew my attacker. We had been out that evening. He KNEW I was not interested in sex with him — he was simply a friend of my roomates boyfriend— and one other time he tried to force himself on me and I was able to stop him. That time he apologized and blamed drinking. The second time a few weeks later I could not stop him. He was determined and stronger than I was. Should I feel ashamed? No! Did I? YES!!! I never told anyone for many years. Then I tried to tell my first husband after he playfully held me down on the bed to kiss me and I freaked out. That husband told me “get over it...I would not hurt you”. No support there! I do not have a great solution to the situation I admit. I still know that woman need to feel safe and secure when/if they report it and printing their names in newspapers will not make that happen. Woman are still treated as if they “caused” the rape and that is wrong. Publishing names would be even worse. Personally I think we should try punishing the women who LIE instead and printing those names. It might stop the abuse of false reporting.
46 posted on 04/07/2008 5:38:18 PM PDT by wifeoffreeper
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To: wifeoffreeper
Whew!

You posted an awful lot. Let me respond.

1. Welcome to Free Republic.

2. I am sorry for the ordeal you went through. As a man I will never know the intensity a woman feels after a rape. Men can be raped also, but I'm told women deal with it harder.

3. My angry attitude???? Sorry, I'm not angry. I don't have an axe to grind. I have no experience in any of the nasty aspects of rape. But I do know that false accusations of rape account for about 1 out of 3 reported cases.

And drugs and/or alcohol are usually involved. As they were in your case. Bad decision lead to rape.

4. Why is rape the only crime where the accuser get anonymity? Studies show that women are empowered only if they come forward. They are able to deal with the guilt and shame.

47 posted on 04/07/2008 6:33:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Typical White Person)
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To: hadit2here
Indeed I do.
48 posted on 04/08/2008 5:57:55 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jimt

“didn’t even understand what happened”

then a feminist started talking to her, and saying that her decision to have sex wasn’t really her decision, or that all heterosexual sex is rape, or some such.

Feminists have so distorted the definition that real, violent sexual violations get lumped in with these cases of non-rape being redefined as real rape.


49 posted on 04/08/2008 6:01:27 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Centurion2000

Here’s another one.

Show a tax collector with a huge bag of money taken from a guy who has but a few coins in his hand.

Caption it: “What Democrats mean by “change” - it’ll be all you have left”


50 posted on 04/08/2008 6:03:41 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Rape. A crime where most of the accused (men) are really innocent.”

One accused innocent is too many, but MOST are innocent??

Please...


51 posted on 04/08/2008 6:06:38 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Petronski
It says to me "I was raped and I'm tired of feeling shame about it."

To everyone else it says "Avoid me unless you want to engage in a nice, pleasant conversation about rape."

52 posted on 04/08/2008 6:07:22 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G
To everyone else it says "Avoid me unless you want to engage in a nice, pleasant conversation about rape."

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I would guess that the response of most would be avoidance, if only because of what this shirt conveys about the wearer's mental state.

53 posted on 04/08/2008 6:09:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jimt
Corrina says when she was raped years ago, she didn't even understand exactly what had happened.

She may have only come to "understand" that she was raped after being indoctrinated into whackjjob feminism. Depending on how deep into left-wing feminism you get, rape can be defined as consensual sex that the woman later regrets. I once dated a hard-core feminist who showed me some truly frightening materials that explained how even if a woman believes that sex is consensual at the time; if she later comes to believe that she was unfairly coerced into the act (read: seduced), then that is rape and the man should be sent to prison. The most left-wing feminists essentially believe that men should be sent to prison solely on the word of any woman that regrets a sexual encounter for any reason.

54 posted on 04/08/2008 6:12:55 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: exit82

That is hilarious!


55 posted on 04/08/2008 6:13:31 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Ramius
Seems like it is merely a way to force other people you don't know to be uneasy in your presence. It sets the agenda for what you want them to think about. Forces it. It's an aggressive and pushy, almost arrogant attitude.

BINGO

56 posted on 04/08/2008 6:15:54 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: trisham
I would guess that the response of most would be avoidance, if only because of what this shirt conveys about the wearer's mental state.

Yes. It suggests that they aren't just damaged...they're ruined. Why would you want some stranger's first impression of you to be that you're the raped girl?

57 posted on 04/08/2008 6:20:14 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Responsibility2nd
This is sick! I can just imagine what would go through the mind of a rapist when he saw the t-shirt.

(ummm she must have liked it because she is advertising)

58 posted on 04/08/2008 6:26:52 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: wifeoffreeper
and one other time he tried to force himself on me and I was able to stop him. That time he apologized and blamed drinking. The second time a few weeks later I could not stop him.

You were in this creep's company A SECOND TIME? Are you for real?

59 posted on 04/08/2008 6:30:08 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: jimt

Maybe she didn’t understand because she was 5 years old when the rape occurred.


60 posted on 04/08/2008 6:31:32 AM PDT by Ditter
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