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IRAN'S BUSTED IRAQ BID (Iran's Quds unit failed to destabilize Iraq)
NY Post ^ | 04/10/08 | AMIR TAHERI

Posted on 04/10/2008 2:23:16 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

IRAN'S BUSTED IRAQ BID

By AMIR TAHERI

April 10, 2008 -- A GAMBLE that proved too costly. That's how analysts in Tehran describe events last month in Basra. Iran's state-run media have de facto confirmed that this was no spontaneous "uprising." Rather, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) tried to seize control of Iraq's second-largest city using local Shiite militias as a Trojan horse.

Tehran's decision to make the gamble was based on three assumptions:

* Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki wouldn't have the courage to defend Basra at the risk of burning his bridges with the Islamic Republic in Iran.

* The international force would be in no position to intervene in the Basra battle. The British, who controlled Basra until last December, had no desire to return, especially if this meant getting involved in fighting. The Americans, meanwhile, never had enough troops to finish off al-Qaeda-in-Iraq, let alone fight Iran and its local militias on a new front.

* The Shiite clerical leadership in Najaf would oppose intervention by the new Iraqi security forces in a battle that could lead to heavy Shiite casualties.

The Iranian plan - developed by Revolutionary Guard's Quds (Jerusalem) unit, which is in charge of "exporting the Islamic Revolution" - aimed at a quick victory. To achieve that, Tehran spent vast sums persuading local Iraqi security personnel to switch sides or to remain neutral.

The hoped-for victory was to be achieved as part of a massive Shiite uprising spreading from Baghdad to the south via heartland cities such as Karbala, Kut and al-Amarah. A barrage of rockets and missiles against the "Green Zone" in Baghdad and armed attacks on a dozen police stations and Iraqi army barracks in the Shiite heartland were designed to keep the Maliki government under pressure.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amirtaheri; iran; iraq; isf; quds; sadr; sistani

1 posted on 04/10/2008 2:23:16 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: nuconvert; FARS; AdmSmith

Ping!


2 posted on 04/10/2008 2:24:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This sounds like it should be required reading for the Democrat leadership.


3 posted on 04/10/2008 2:32:09 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’d been waiting for his take on what had happened. I wish it had come out before Petraeus testified, so that the Democrats could have been routed. “Fiasco” —not quite.


4 posted on 04/10/2008 2:34:02 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Not that we needed convincing, but how many stories do you have to read like this before realizing that someone like Obama in the White House would be a total screaming disaster?


5 posted on 04/10/2008 2:40:25 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
To some people, no amount of reading would do.
6 posted on 04/10/2008 2:43:20 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Past Your Eyes

just like Clinton. His policy of sanctions left Saddam twisting in the wind strategically with a hollowed out military that in no way stood as a regional power to confront Iran, hence Saddam’s continued shell game that he had WMD’s , just as he’d had to use them in the Iran-Iraq war. Iraq finally getting to the point it can stand up and fight. This is the point in the Viet Nam war where the Democrats yank the rug out from under the regime we supported and let the enemy win. Maybe not this time.


7 posted on 04/10/2008 2:48:33 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So this was Iran’s first attempt at a “Tet offensive” and predictably the MSM chimed in to give them the needed propaganda moral victory.

I knew there was more to this than the stupid MSM and there jihadist stringers were reporting, No wonder Maliki responded the way he did and more power to him. Iran wants to turn Iraq into Lebanon using the Mahdi militia as its front.


8 posted on 04/10/2008 2:48:33 AM PDT by federal
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To: gusopol3
I wish it had come out before Petraeus testified

The whole gambit was to have this "route" in advance of Petraeus' testimony which would lead to a US withdrawal. This operation was intended to be the Iraqi "Tet" offensive, but Iran wanted to do it on the "cheap" apparently.

The difference being that in this case, the Iraqi Army massed and headed south an overwhelming force and were in the process of taking apart Iran's whole presence, when Iran decided to cry uncle.

Despite what the international press was saying, internally, this also confirmed that Al Sadr is just a puppet of Iran and that has got to hurt. In the end, Maliki now has to finish taking apart the Madhi Army as they have been exposed as foreign agents.

9 posted on 04/10/2008 3:02:02 AM PDT by dalight
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bookmark for later.


10 posted on 04/10/2008 3:21:20 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
This was the first major shakeout of the ISF and, against Qud forces and inflitrators that took the Iranians years to deploy, it rose to task. The MSM is downplaying just how serious the Tehran mullahs were in trying to topple the Iraqi government. It doesn't want to give Bush any pretext.

Unfortunately, what is lost on the American public is proof of the fantastic job our troops are doing to stand-up Iraqi forces. :-(
11 posted on 04/10/2008 3:23:02 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: dalight
The whole gambit was to have this "route"

It's "rout" not "route". A "route" is a road or way. Your dispatcher "routes" you from A to B; a large army "routs" you.

FReepers please take notice! I don't know how many times I've seen this one.

That, and "poured over the documents" instead of the correct "pored over". "Poured over" suggests chocolate sauce or maple syrup.

</editkibitzing>

12 posted on 04/10/2008 3:53:46 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: dalight
....in advance of Petraeus' testimony which would lead to a US withdrawal. This operation was intended to be the Iraqi "Tet" offensive....

Very plausible. And I shouldn't doubt that Howard Dean's initials are somewhere on the Iranian op-order. He was on Tavis Smiley last night -- what a maroon. I'm really tired of Smiley playing "amen corner" for all these Dims with my money. Of course, Bill Moyers is the real pain in the ass. We get 90 minutes of his stuff every Friday night, between him and his altar-boy Brancaccio.

13 posted on 04/10/2008 3:57:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

It’s a hopeless cause. But sometimes you just have to chime in. I heard Rush call the Democrats “nimrods” yesterday. Apparently he doesn’t know that Nimrod is/was a mighty hunter.


14 posted on 04/10/2008 4:03:58 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
hey (not hay), your (not you're) tagline, please fill in the blanks if you know "whatever" -happened - to Sinkspur.
15 posted on 04/10/2008 4:11:34 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: lentulusgracchus
Some of the chronic mispellings on FR play fast and lose with the English language and make me want to loose my mind

Leni

16 posted on 04/10/2008 4:19:28 AM PDT by MinuteGal (I Love My Country More Than I Dislike John McCain)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Apparently he doesn’t know that Nimrod is/was a mighty hunter.

Ever since Bugs Bunny applied the name to an opponent, the scriptural Nimrod has had a tough row to hoe. Nevertheless, when it comes to today's democrats, "nimrod," "maroon," "nincowpoop" and "im-bessel" are applicable, if overly mild.

Mr. niteowl77

17 posted on 04/10/2008 4:32:03 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Very interesting article. Should be required reading for our Congress and Senate before they call for the troops to leave Iraq.


18 posted on 04/10/2008 4:33:28 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: AmericaUnite; All

What I dont understand is how Iran can carry out operations like this and yet continue to deny any involvement in Iraqs destabilization. Even Maliki has sent representatives to Iran to say “Please stop meddling in our affairs.” It reminds me of a bully beating someone up on the street, and every time police show up saying “I had nothing to do with it.” Iran REALLY needs to have its clock cleaned!


19 posted on 04/10/2008 4:53:11 AM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: lentulusgracchus
“It's “rout” not “route”. A “route” is a road or way. Your dispatcher “routes” you from A to B; a large army “routs” you.

FReepers please take notice! I don't know how many times I've seen this one.

That, and “poured over the documents” instead of the correct “pored over”. “Poured over” suggests chocolate sauce or maple syrup.”

Oooh — don't forget the “this is very series” instead of Serious. :-)

20 posted on 04/10/2008 5:32:46 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: federal

tet part two, is slated for the week before the US elections


21 posted on 04/10/2008 6:01:51 AM PDT by tm61
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To: TigerLikesRooster; jveritas
Fascinating!

jveritas Ping!

22 posted on 04/10/2008 6:08:10 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: tm61

It will indeed of course all this will be totally overlooked by the MSM. Its great to wake up everyday to world where history has been wiped clean that night.

Hopefully the Iraq government and Iraq military will be another step down the road and will handle those events even better. Although as the truth comes out little by little about Basra, I must say they handled that better than I expected.


23 posted on 04/10/2008 6:18:57 AM PDT by federal
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Iran is a paper-tiger and militarily their only strength could come from nuclear weapons.
24 posted on 04/10/2008 6:42:56 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
One take-away is that, contrary to what is popular in the MSM, the US is not a clumsy and inept as their narrative dictates. As for the Iranians, they are not as crafty, nor can they always call the shots even within religious sects they should have affinity with.

Thus the MSM’s narratives fail them in two respects. It fails them in a third respect: they forget that Iranians as not Arabs, and this difference sometimes is quite a point of difference between Iraqis and Iranians.

25 posted on 04/10/2008 6:43:52 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: federal

The benefit to the Iraq government is tremendous. Their troops secured a huge victory, they established themselves as the big dog in Traq, Sadr has been weakened and the lack of support for Sadr’s (Iran) play shows that people are following the government.

As long as our military is available for back up they can check Iran.

Isn’t this what we have been hoping for?


26 posted on 04/10/2008 6:45:35 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Now it’s time to pay them back in SPADES. We should be shoveling help to any group that wants to take the mullahs down.


27 posted on 04/10/2008 6:47:08 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bump


28 posted on 04/10/2008 6:49:24 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I can't wait to see what he stands for." - Susan Sarandon on her support of Barack Obama)
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To: misterrob

Yes its exactly what I have hoped for all along and I agree this has been perceived by the Iraqi’s as good news. It has won a renewed respect from me as well.

I have known all along that the only way to defeat terrorism is through freedom, and I have felt all along that when given the chance Iraq was the best chance of that happening in the Middle East.

But I have to say the Iraqi’s surprised me somewhat in this instance. I at first feared this was some form of political infighting but now as things come into perspective this was strictly a strike against Iran and other outside influences.

I guess sometimes its tough to keep things sorted out, after all you have to wade through a mile of MSM feces just to get at even a small nugget of truth.


29 posted on 04/10/2008 7:09:03 AM PDT by federal
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To: MinuteGal
Some of the chronic mispellings on FR play fast and lose with the English language and make me want to loose my mind

you should of added the requisite apostrophe on "mispelling's," although personally I could care less.

30 posted on 04/10/2008 7:32:31 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

The terrorist regime in Iran has been defeated in Iraq.


31 posted on 04/10/2008 7:43:18 AM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: lentulusgracchus

32 posted on 04/10/2008 7:51:19 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (Let Freedom Ping List - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Join it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow, this is big.


33 posted on 04/10/2008 8:05:33 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: gusopol3
Hmmm... whatever did happen to our resident FedShill and JBT-lover...?
34 posted on 04/10/2008 8:11:42 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TXnMA

you know, very few freepers do I track on the basis of issues. I just know he commented a lot and then one day was gone. There was even a thread last fall where a number of others brought it up. I hope he’s o.k. whatever. You (or at least I do)get to miss people from our community.


35 posted on 04/10/2008 8:30:08 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: MinuteGal
Some of the chronic "mispellings" on FR play fast and lose with the English language and make me want to loose my mind

Was it too tight to begin with?

Oh, btw, you misspelled misspellings.

36 posted on 04/10/2008 9:11:20 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: FARS; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Ping!
37 posted on 04/10/2008 9:12:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: gusopol3
Yep, surprising, isn't it, how one tends to remember the folks who disagree with (or plague) you -- moreso, even, than folks who are agreeable?

I recall when I was posting the results of my engineering analysis of the Murrah building, that any thread with "OKC", "Murrah" "FBI" or, even, "bombing" could be counted on to have a response -- usually within a minute or so of posting -- from Sinkspur, _Jim, or one other FReepername I have mercifully dropped from the old memory bank. I remember FReeper comments like, "Wow, that was quick! Who's manning the _Jim cubicle at the FBI/ATF tonight?" ;-)

Of course, their trademark was snide, disparaging, ad hominem attacks -- with nothing substantive. That trio still owes me a response to my serious question:

"You guys found lots of blue plastic barrel fragments scattered all over downtown OKC -- even on the tops of buildings. Your supposed sketch by McVeigh of the bomb setup inside the Ryder truck showed the three empty, blue-painted steel VP Racing Fuels nitromethane barrels standing against the back door of the Ryder truck. Where is the evidence that you found any trace of those blue, steel 50-gallon drums? (They should have wound up near -- or beyond -- the little red car that was smashed by the truck's rear axle...)"

Got lots of snide comments, but...I'm still waiting for a substantive, honest answer...

38 posted on 04/10/2008 9:34:15 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: misterrob
"BTW, you misspelled misspellings."

On porpoise, of course.

Leni

39 posted on 04/10/2008 10:45:43 AM PDT by MinuteGal (I Love My Country More Than I Dislike John McCain)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Iran and Sadr are losing in Najaf too:

Sadr: Sistani told me to keep the Mahdi Army; SCIRI: No, he didn’t

You will notice the report is coming from the Blogosphere..

40 posted on 04/10/2008 11:26:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks.


41 posted on 04/10/2008 11:36:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas
The terrorist regime in Iran has been defeated in Iraq.
Set back, yes. Defeated? Time will show.

It is only too possible that we will be defeated on November 4.


42 posted on 04/10/2008 5:29:42 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
It's "rout" not "route". A "route" is a road or way. Your dispatcher "routes" you from A to B; a large army "routs" you.

LOL, you can edit for me any time.

43 posted on 04/10/2008 11:43:37 PM PDT by dalight
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To: lentulusgracchus
We get 90 minutes of his stuff every Friday night, between him and his altar-boy Brancaccio.

Ah grasshopper, man who watches PBS likely to get dizzy from liberal spin. Perhaps radio is your cure. Hugh Hewett is on about the same time, and is generally not a waste of time.

44 posted on 04/10/2008 11:47:50 PM PDT by dalight
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