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To: Dan Evans

Do you know what E85 is??????????????????
?????????????????????????????????????????
Your making erroneous statements.
You know so damn much..... but it is all wrong.

Our V8s get an extra mile per gal with 10-15%
blend, because the whole mix burns cleaner.
If 10% of a blend is 75,000 btus and other
90% is 115,000 btus then the blended mix has
111,000 btus, so there isn’t a great loss of
btus in the mix and if as in our experiece you
get 6% better mileage due to the mix burning cleaner
putting out more energy, you’ve gained.

Back to question what is E85????
Folks get stampeded by so much they think they
know that is all wrong. What is E85...
Anybody here know. Or are you’aal just letting
speculators and BIG OIl snow you. And
That is what E85 is.......A snow job by BIG OIl
to hurt ethanol and by GM to be PC with stupid,
dunderhead, greenies...Ed Hubel.


157 posted on 04/19/2008 6:11:23 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458
E85 is a 85 percent gasoline and 15 percent ethanol mix. I've posted studies showing that the use of this fuel results in mileage about 80 percent of gasoline mileage.

"We called Dale Schroeder, administrator of fleet vehicles for the Iowa Department of Administrative Services. That state has over 1,000 E85 cars in its vehicle fleet (mandated by the governor and the state legislature). Iowa started using E85 vehicles in 1991. So, we asked Schroeder, what is the impact on gas mileage of E85 in real-world conditions?

"In the first few years, I kept very close track of this," says Schroeder. "We had a 17% reduction in fuel economy with E85."

"Still, that answer is not so neat and tidy. Most people -- including state workers -- can't always put E85 in a car. There are still only a few hundred pumps nationwide that dispense E85. So, at least until recently, few flex-fuel cars have burned E85 exclusively. They will burn a tank of E85, then a tank of the more readily available E10, then another E85. As a result, the 17% reduction that Schroeder reports is based on his fleet burning about 55% E85, and 45% E10. "I was told that the [mileage] reduction could be 25%, so I didn't think 17% was too bad," he says.

E85 and gas mileage: Where lies the truth?

I can imagine a comparison of ethanol blend vs gasoline where ethanol comes out on top. All you need to do is test it with a vehicle that doesn't run well on low-octane fuel. Since ethanol has a very high octane rating, the test will show ethanol getting better mileage. But you don't need to add 15% ethanol to increase octane to the point where high compression engines will run well on it. Lower percentage mixes will work.

The jury is still out on whether, on balance, ethanol reduces emissions. Carbon monoxide emissions fell but some other toxic compounds, like formaldehyde and ozone are created. Under some conditions hydrocarbon pollutants increase.

160 posted on 04/19/2008 7:31:06 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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