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I'd change your post only slightly -- Islam has been at war with the WORLD since it's founding -- Islam is a civilisational disease that destroyed the great civilisations of Coptic Christian Egypt, Christian Notrh Africa, Syria, Turkey and Iraq and also Zoroastrian Persia/Iran -- it badly affected indian civilisation before the infected portion (Pakistan and Bangaladesh) split off. Islam is at war with everyone -- with Hindus in India and Nepal and Bangaladesh and Paksitan, with Buddhists in Thailand and the statues of Buddha in Afghanistan (of course the Buddhists there were massacred centuries earlier), it is at war with Christians in Indonesia, the Philippines, Russia, Serbia, Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Ethiopia, Sudan, North Africa.

The west JUST realised (post 9-11), what a disease Islam is -- for years earlier it ignored or even fed that disease (eg. the founding of Saudi Arabia, the appeasement of Pakiland etc.) and is still doing so by supporting Kosovo muslims when they burn down orthodox churches.

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

You're right of course. I tend to think of the modern civilized world (since it embodies most of Western culture and values) to be “The West”.