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Hatfill v. US - DOJ and FBI Statement of Facts (filed Friday)
US DOJ and FBI Memorandum In Support of Motion For Summary Judgment (Statement of Facts) | April 11, 2008 | Department of Justice

Posted on 04/13/2008 8:20:52 AM PDT by ZacandPook

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To: EdLake
THE FACTS

Dwight Adams being deposed under oath in the Hatfill verus FBI lawsuit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attack

Connolly: Earlier you testified that regarding the scientific aspect of the investigation there was information that was simply in your view too sensitive to share to the public about the particular characteristics of the organism sent in the mail. Is that correct?

Adams: In so many words, yes, sir.

Connolly: I don't want to mischaracterize it. If you think I've mischaracterized it in any way then, please, put your own words on it.

Adams: No, that's fine.

Connolly: Did you feel like you had the same restrictions in informing the senate, congress, or their staff in terms of what it is you would reveal to them about the particular characteristics of the organism that was sent?

Adams: As I've already stated there was specific information that I did not feel appropriate to share with either the media or to the Hill because it was too sensitive of the information to do so.

THE SPIN

http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/anthrax-powder.htm

Sources on Capitol Hill say that in an FBI background briefing given in late 2002, Dwight Adams, one of the FBI’s topranking scientists, suggested that the silica discovered in the Senate anthrax was, in fact, silicon that occurred naturally in the organism’s subsurface spore coats. To support his thesis, Adams cited a 1980 paper published by the Journal of Bacteriology—a paper that Matthew Meselson, a molecular biologist at Harvard University, says he sent to the FBI. The authors reported that they found silicon, the element, in the spore coats of a bacterium called B. cereus, a close cousin of anthrax.
741 posted on 05/18/2008 1:09:44 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
The anthrax was like jumping beans

So, what's your point? The average 8-year-old has seen how static electricity will affect dust particles, causing them to jump around. The fact that Geisbert was excited about it just proves that he was inexperienced in working with dry anthrax powders. His boss, General Parker, stated that he was.

Everything in this section of Preston's book shows that they were working with something they had never seen before -- dry anthrax powders.

They mistakenly believed it required some kind of "trick" to make the spores jump around.

You might claim this makes them "baffoons," but all it does is show that they are human. When confronted with something new in a time of crisis, they'll imagine all sorts of terrible things are going on.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

742 posted on 05/18/2008 3:14:34 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: ZACKandPOOK

Mr. Michael Sheehan’s view (”Crush the Cell”) that the Salafi-Jihadists were not behind the anthrax has as its core assumption that Al Qaeda and its supporters would seek to maximize casualties.

In contrast, Al-Timimi spoke on the need for a fiqh (law of islamic jurisprudence) for the times.

What is his view of the revisions of Dr. Sayyed Imam El-Sherif, Zawahiri’s former mentor?

Jihad reconsidered, June 2007
http://www.egypttoday.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=7430

The founder of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, IANA writer Kamal Habib, discusses the revisions here. (Al-Timimi’s was IANA’s celebrated speaker). Al-Timimi was on the advisory board of Assirat, for which Kamal Habib wrote before turning to also write for IANA’s publication when Assirat folded.

Kamal Habib explains:

“Shariah accepts such reviews, so long as the ijtihad [quest for knowledge or interpretation] does not touch the basic core of Shariah. The door of review must always be open because this is fiqh with real-life impacts — people can be killed because of it. A group may launch a jihadi operation that could lead to the death of innocents, and this is a very sensitive issue for them. Intellectually, they believe it is not acceptable to harm or kill a Muslim — or even judge them as being apostates.”

IG had previously undergone this process of revision that had led to a cease-fire after the public relations disaster of Luxor. Now EIJ is undergoing the process led b senior detained leaders. Kamal Habib describes the difference between the EIJ and IG.

“Al-Jihad is a secret group made up of compartmentalized cells. People in one Jihad cell did not know those in others. It had diversity in its thought and inclinations. Al-Jama’a was a hierarchical group with one leader and a patrilineal, spiritual cast where all people were channeled toward one aim. In Al-Jihad, most members belong to the same age group and there was no clear leader.”

To assume that all supporters of the Salafi-jihadists view fiqh in the same way is mistaken.

And if you don’t understand your enemy, you can’t crush the cell.


743 posted on 05/18/2008 5:38:03 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

1. “Blacklisted by the Bush government,” Salon, May 19, 2008
Spying on Americans without warrants, charges based on secret evidence, a small town divided by fear. Welcome to the world of Bush’s “specially designated global terrorists.”
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/05/19/al_haramain/

Comment: Al-Buthe says it is guilt by association. In another recent article, he says he was talking to Bin Laden’s sheik and Bin Laden’s brother-in-law Khalifa. Khalifa funded, through a charity, the operation known as “Bojinka.” KSM and Hambali, both involved in Bojinka, came to lead an Al Qaeda effort to weaponize anthrax for use against US targets. Obama had 75,000 supporters in Portland today rally. Steve Novick stands poised to beat the DNC-backed contender in the Oregon primary. Both candidates are as smart as they are strong supporters of civil rights. But by being smart, they can take a moment to digest the facts relating to Bojinka and how the historical example bears. If Al-Buthe wants his public relations effort to be persuasive in the long-run, he should tell us more about contact with Khalifa, Al-Hawali, and Al-Timimi. (The Salon article reads persuasively but is subject to dramatic revelations by the government, depending on what the facts turn out to be),

2. “Purported bin Laden message: Liberate Palestine,” May 18, 2008
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/18/bin.laden.message/?iref=mpstoryview

Comment: What are Dr. Al-Timimi’s views on Middle East peaceful coexistence with Israel?

Establishing a center for Islamic education, al-Timimi contacted Egyptian-born Salafi Abd al-Rahman Abd al-Khaliq and translated his works into English. A London charity, JIMAS, at whose conferences Ali would speak, published the translation of al-Khaliq’s book. The UK Islamic charity published the book calling on Muslims worldwide to “overthrow” peace treaties between Arab states and Israel. He would give talks such as “Our Need for a Fiqh Suitable to Our Time and Place” at the 1997 conference in London or his “Cure for the Cancer of Globalization” or “The Position of Palestine in Allah’s Revelation” at a JIMAS conference in London. (Fiqh relates to the principles of islamic jurisprudence to include those governing warfare). Thus, although he spoke in moderate and measured tones, he was not at all a man of peace.

Sheikh Abdur Rahman Abdul Khaliq’s book published by JIMAS, The Islamic Ruling on The Peace Process, argued that “the Jews are the enemies of the Islamic ummah (nation).” The US government’s National Commission for investigating the 9/11 attacks listed the book as one of a number of texts “espousing violence and hatred towards the west and reinforcing the victimization of Muslims at the hands of the infidels.” “The Jews have been the enemies of the Islamic ummah since the Messenger of Allah, Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be on him, began his call to Allah; and their hostility to this ummah will continue till the Day of Resurrection.” The 911 Commission’s website quoted from the book. “War or Jihad is an obligatory duty which remains in force till the Day of Resurrection.” According to another version of the book made available by a separate jihadist website (currently offline), Muslims are completely prohibited from making peace with non-Muslims “except when the kafir (infidel) is humbled and surrenders”— which is exactly what Al-Timimi taught his young wards at summer camp at the Frederick, Maryland park where the FBI drained the ponds.

Any peace made by Muslim countries with Israel contravenes the Quran and must be reversed, the book argues. The author commands Muslims to “firmly believe in the invalidity” of peace agreements with Israel, and calls on them “to work towards overthrowing these treaties.” The letters to the news organizations were mailed — on September 17 or September 18, either the day the Camp David Accord was signed in 1978 or the next day when it was approved by the Israeli knesset. Abdel-Rahman, the blind sheik, in the early 1980s, said: “We reject Camp David and we regret the normalization of relations with Israel. We also reject all the commitments that were made by the traitor Sadat, who deviated from Islam.” He continued: “As long as the Camp David Agreement stands, this conflict between us and the government will continue.” The letters to the Senators were mailed on the date Sadat was assassinated, October 6, for entering the peace treaty with Israel. Al-Timimi had hand-delivered the letter from Bin Laden’s sheik to every member of Congress on October 6, 2002, the first anniversary of the mailing to Senator Leahy and Senator Daschle. The government’s indictment alleged that after the space shuttle disaster in February, Timimi said the United States “was the greatest enemy of Muslims.”

When pundits rely on the targeting of Senator Leahy as pointing away from militant islamists as responsible for mailing, it may be that they were just unaware that he had the single most important role in appropriations to Egypt and Israel as head of the relevant Senate subcommittee overseeing the appropriations. Moreover, anyone who still doesn’t know of his important role on issues such as torture as the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee was not paying attention to the repeated tense exchanges between him and former Attorney General Gonzales on the subject.


744 posted on 05/18/2008 7:29:10 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

This weekend Bin Laden used Israel’s 60th birthday to send a message. The anthrax letters are best viewed as the sending of a message such as the al Hayat letter bombs. Anthrax was sent on the date of the Camp David Accord and the related Sadat assassination (Armed Forces Day). Expert Michael Scheuer, formerly with the CIA, has said that Al Qaeda does not plan attacks around important dates, so far as the CIA can glean. But take Ayman at his word when he says he at least plans some of his messages around anniversaries

    The FBI Counterterrorism Division sent out a warning to law enforcement in August 2001 that Al Qaeda or related groups might attack on an anniversary date.

NLETS MESSAGE (ALL REGIONS)

8/1/01

A MESSAGE FROM FBI COUNTERTERRORISM DIVISION, WASHINGTON, D.C.

***

AT THIS TIME, THE FBI DOES NOT POSSESS ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION INDICATING THAT INDIVIDUALS SYMPATHETIC TO THE EAST AFRICA BOMBERS OR USAMA BIN LADEN ARE PLANNING AN ATTACK TO COINCIDE WITH THE THIRD ANNIVERSARY OF THE BOMBINGS. HOWEVER, IN RECENT WEEKS, THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN TRACKING AN INCREASED VOLUME OF THREAT REPORTING EMANATING FROM GROUPS ALIGNED WITH OR SYMPATHETIC TO USAMA BIN LADEN. THE MAJORITY OF THIS REPORTING INDICATES A POTENTIAL FOR ATTACKS AGAINST U.S. TARGETS ABROAD; HOWEVER, THE POSSIBILITY OF AN ATTACK IN THE UNITED STATES CANNOT BE DISCOUNTED.

CONCLUSION: RECIPIENTS ARE BEING NOTIFIED AT THIS TIME BECAUSE THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY CONSIDERS ANNIVERSARY DATES AS A KEY THREAT INDICATOR. ALTHOUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY PERSONNEL ARE CAUTIONED NOT TO EXCLUSIVELY RELY ON SUCH DATES TO ‘PREDICT’ ACTS OF TERRORISM, ANNIVERSARY DATES CERTAINLY WARRANT INCREASED ATTENTION IN ROUTINE SECURITY PLANNING.

RECIPIENTS WHO RECEIVE OR DEVELOP ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS MATTER SHOULD CONTACT THEIR LOCAL FBI OFFICE OR FBI HEADQUARTERS IMMEDIATELY.

  Zawahiri issued messages in 2004 on the third anniversary of 9/11 and then in 2005 on the third anniversary of the transfer of prisoners to Guantanamo. He said: “These days we are marking three years since the transportation of the first group of Muslim prisoners was sent to the Guantanamo prison. “ The Vanguards of Conquest did the same thing in the late 1990s. Just as Zawahiri’s thinking on weaponizing anthrax was gaining traction in emails to Atef in the Spring of 1999, the Vanguards invoked an anniversary relating to the signing of the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty and issued a statement marking its 20th anniversary. The group said at the time it was reiterating its enmity toward the US and Israel to mark the 20th anniversary of the signing of the treaty in March 1979. Signed on March 26, 1979, the Egypt-Israel peace treaty was a direct result of the Camp David Peace Accords, signed in September 1978.

    The first round of letters was sent to ABC, CBS, NBC, the New York Post, and the publisher of the National Enquirer and Sun. Letters were sent to Senators Daschle and Leahy in a second batch, using a much more highly refined product. The mailing dates were of special importance to the man in its December 4, 1998 PDB that the CIA told President Clinton was planning the attack the US using aircraft and other means — Mohammed Islambouli, the brother of Sadat’s assassin. The letters to the news organizations were mailed — coincidentally or not — on September 17 or September 18, either the day the Camp David Accord was signed in 1978 or the next day when it was approved by the Israeli knesset. Abdel-Rahman, the blind sheik, in the early 1980s, said: “We reject Camp David and we regret the normalization of relations with Israel. We also reject all the commitments that were made by the traitor Sadat, who deviated from Islam.” He continued: “As long as the Camp David Agreement stands, this conflict between us and the government will continue.”

    At the time of the anthrax mailings, Sadat’s assassination and the Camp David Accord still dominated Zawahiri’s thinking. In Knights Under the Banner of the Prophet, Al-Zawahiri argued in the Fall of 2001 that the Camp David Accord sought to turn Sinai into a disarmed area to serve as a buffer zone between Egypt and Israel. He cites the peace treaty between the two countries, particularly issues related to the armament of the Egyptian Army inside Sinai. He claims that Egypt has restored Sinai formally but it remains in the hands of Israel militarily. Al-Zawahiri cites many examples about the US flagrant support for Israel, including the US pressure on Egypt to sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty at a time when Israel publicly declares that it will not sign the treaty because of its special circumstances.

    Despite this, Zawahiri says, the United States sympathizes with Israel and overlooks its actions. This means that the United States has deliberately left the nuclear weapons in the hands of Israel to threaten its Arab neighbors. Al-Zawahiri argues in his book that the western states have considered Israel’s presence in the region a basic guarantee for serving the Western interests.

     The Wall Street Journal explained in August 2002: “Oct. 8 last year was Columbus Day, a public holiday on which mail wasn’t collected from letter boxes. That may mean the letters could have been posted as early as the Saturday before.” Taking into account the fact that there was no mail postmarked with a Trenton postmark on Columbus Day, October 8, the letter to Senator Tom Daschle postmarked October 9 may actually have been mailed October 6. (The FBI, of course, may know the date it was mailed based on information that has not been disclosed.) (Some press reports, however, suggest that they are considering that the mailing may have been at anytime during the October 6-October 9 period). October 6 was the day Anwar Sadat was assassinated for his role in the Camp David Accord. President Sadat was assassinated on the national holiday called “Armed Forces Day.” He was killed during an annual holiday parade which marks the day, October 6, 1973, that Egypt made a critical successful surprise attack on Israel during the 1973 war.

     ”Death to Pharaoh!” the young Army officer shouted. He and his confederates jumped off the truck shot into the reviewing stand where Sadat had been watching the annual parade. “I killed the Pharaoh, and I do not fear death.” Sadat’s detention of Muhammad Shawqi al-Islambouli had spurred his brother, Khalid, to seize an opportunity presented on short notice to assassinate Anwar Sadat. Kamal Habib, founder of Egyptian Islamic Jihad and writer for the IANA quarterly magazine, who spent 10 years in prison in connection with the assassination, told academic Fawaz Gerges: “It was not a well-coordinated operation, and it succeeded by a miracle.” A street was named after Khalid Islambouli in Iran, with Iran having been upset at Egypt for granting the Shah safe haven. After leaving Egypt in the mid-1980s, Muhammad Islambouli operated in Pakistan recruiting Egyptian fighters for the war in Afghanistan, and headed a branch of Bin Laden’s Maktab al-Khidmat (‘Bureau of Services’) in Peshawar. Muhammad Islambouli was the subject of the December 4, 1998 Presidential Daily Brief — numerous motorcycles and related vehicles, complete with helicopter hovering overhead — titled “Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks” explaining that Bin Laden planned an attack on the US involving airplanes and that the motivation was to free the blind sheik Abdel-Rahman and a dissident Saudi sheik.

     US Postal employee Ahmed Sattar, in a 1999 interview, said of Sadat’s assassination: “ I felt good. It was a shock to me at first because I never expected the pharaoh to be assassinated in front of his army. Sure, the pharaoh, yes. And but really, after absorbing the shock, I said, “Well, that was well done.”

     The aide to blind sheik Abdel-Rahman explained: “What the Western mentality does not understand that your measurement is different — your measurement of good and bad. Yes, President Sadat was a media star as what you said. Civilized, smoking a pipe, always referred to Barbara Walters as “my friend Barbara,” and “my friend Carter” — they were all his friends. But what did he do to the normal man in the slums of Cairo or in upper Egypt? He deceived them. When he signed the peace treaty with Israel, he promised, “This will be the end of suffering. Things will change dramatically for the Egyptian people.” He promised democracy, freedom, and people believed him.”

    In his Fall 2001 Knights Under the Banner of the Prophet, Zawahiri explained that the US support for Israel (at Egypt’s expense) was well-illustrated by the historic 33-day airlift to Israel after this October 6 attack. He argues that the US support for Israel made the difference between success or failure for Egypt. Al-Zawahiri describes how the United States shipped weapons, ammunition, and tanks to Israel for 33 days, with the goal being to compensate Israel for its war losses and to swiftly upgrade the combat capabilities.

    He explained in his Fall 2001 book: “The animosity to Israel and America in the hearts of islamists is indivisible. It is an animosity that has provided the ‘al-Qa’dia’ and the epic of jihad in Afghanistan with a continuous flow of ‘Arab Afghans.’” Regarding the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty, Zawahiri adds: “Whoever examines the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty will realize that it was intended to be a permanent treaty from which Egypt could not break loose. It was concluded in an attempt to establish on the ground, by force and coercion, a situation whereby it would be difficult to change by any government hostile to Israel that comes after Al-Sadat.” The militants were especially angry that Sadat had not fully implemented shariah law.

     Complicating consideration of the issue somewhere, on October 5, 2001, the shura member of EIJ and former head of Bin Laden’s farm in the Sudan, Mahjoub, had his bail denied on October 5. Mahmoud Mahjoub was second in command of the Vanguards of Conquest. A letter containing nonpathogenic bacteria had been sent in late January 2001 threatening use of mailed anthrax to the immigration minister signing his security certificate. Mahjoub was bin Laden’s farm manager in Sudan — al-Hawsawi, KSM’s assistant with the anthrax spraydrying documents on his laptop, kept the books.

The CIA and FBI analysts should have pored over translations of the journal Al-Manar Jadeed published by the Ann Arbor-based Islamic Assembly of North America from 1998 - 2002 by writers based in Cairo. It mainly concerned Egyptian politics and planned the strategy based on all that had ever gone on before. There was a change in tone between the first piece by Gamal Sultan and the second installment. The first (before his letter to Abdel-Rahman) urged a pluralistic tolerant approach to differing views while the second issue (after his letter to Abdel-Rahman) contained his piece that seems to have resorted to the familiar intransigent neo-Salafist view. Analysts should pay special heed to the terms dar al-harb (abode of war), dar al-salam (bode of peace) and dar al-’ahd (abode of the treaty). The religious doctrines were applied to the relationships between Islamic and non-Islamic countries. What the liberal and leftist antiwar activists who have rallied to support IANA defendants and al-Haramain defendants like al-Buthi do not realize is that the central belief of these Salafists is that Israel must be destroyed and there can be no peace with Israel. The Camp David Accords are central to the beef they have with the US. The neo-Salafists are not at all peace-loving. It’s just that the public relations debacle of the reckless invasion of Iraq played right into Bin Laden’s hands.

    The 2005 bombing in Egypt at a Sinai resort was on July 23, which is Revolution Day, a national holiday in Egypt celebrating the Egyptian revolution.  It commemorates the 1952 overthrow of King Farouk’s monarchy, led by Gamal Abdel Nassar.  Perhaps a holiday weekend was chosen in order to maximize the number of casualties.  The bombing last year at Taba resort in Egypt was on October 7.  

In September 2006 video, upon the 5-year anniversary of 9/11, Zawahiri explained:

“Among the most prominent of these conspirators are the rules of Egypt, the Arabian Peninsula and Jordan and the traitors in Iraq who shade themselves with the cross of America, the Great Satan... [For these regimes] the slogan ‘death to America, death to Israel’ has gone to be replaced by ‘rule from America and peace with Israel.’”


745 posted on 05/19/2008 2:43:12 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

I see on his webpage Ed is still on a quest to understand issues that were explained by scientists at the time of the mailings.

In an article he does not link,

“ST. LOUIS SCIENTIST’S RESEARCH MAY HELP EXPLAIN THE SPREAD OF SPORES:
Tina Hesman Of the Post-Dispatch.  St. Louis Post - Dispatch.  St. Louis, Mo.:Nov 11, 2001.  p. B.1 

ANTHRAX Tina Hesman reports on biotechnology for the Post-Dispatch.

***
While most experts who study anthrax confess that they are stymied by how big a threat a single letter has posed, one St. Louis University scientist’s research on dust could sweep away some of the confusion.

The research of Roger Lewis, an industrial hygienist at SLU, is aimed at learning how children and other susceptible people are exposed to allergens and lead, and how to clean up those harmful substances. Lewis’ rearch into the way dust particles travel may aid the understanding of the anthrax exposures.

***
Bioterrorism researchers have never studied how spores are released when a letter is opened, Clements said. No one knows how long the spores stay in the air, or how they move about the room, he said.

But Lewis has been studying how tiny particles circulate and sometimes hang in clouds. He also knows why the powdery mixture in the letters contained silica — the stuff that makes up sand and is used as a drying agent. Silica helps keep the spores from sticking together so they can fly about the room more easily.

Lewis adds powdery white silica to bags of dust sucked from carpets all around St. Louis. Silica lubricates the tiny particles of dust that Lewis and his assistants layer onto carpet squares in a basement lab at the Anheuser-Busch Institute.”


746 posted on 05/19/2008 2:57:25 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:LXh_KDyxHZIJ:www.stls.frb.org/publications/ar/2001/pages/text_only.html+%22Roger+Lewis%22+silica&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=27&gl=us

“Adapting to New Threats

Last October, Dr. Roger Lewis listened intently to a radio report about the anthrax spores enclosed with a letter addressed to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle.

The report mentioned that the anthrax was mixed with a substance called silica. The next day, Lewis read that the head of the laboratory examining the letter did not know why the letter contained silica. Lewis did.

An industrial hygienist and associate professor of Environmental and Occupational Health at Saint Louis University’s School of Public Health, Lewis often uses silica in his experiments with materials like lead, dust mite allergens and cat allergens. He studies how these particles accu-mulate on surfaces and become dispersed through the air, how people come in contact with them, and what are the most effective ways to remove them.

Recalling the events of last October, Lewis says: “I phoned Greg Evans, the head of the bioterrorism center at SLU, and I told him that I know why that letter contained silica. It’s because silica is a drying agent. I have used it for years to keep dust airborne. It keeps particles aerosolized and prevents them from clumping. It works fantastic.”

To Lewis, the presence of silica in the Daschle letter indicated a highly sophisticated perpetrator whose intent was for the spores to spread easily and cause as much harm as possible. Evans reported Lewis’ information to the FBI.”

Ed rather that quoting such research such as discussed in this explanation above, argues:

“The idea of coating spores to make them more “flyable” is absolute and total nonsense. It’s beyond that. It’s ridiculous and absurd. It’s just plain STUPID. *** coating spores makes them HEAVIER, and therefore LESS FLYABLE.”

Dr. Roger Lewis knows all about things being less floatable due to their added weight (such as dust with lead). Ed should link relevant articles on the issue if he is going to belabor the issue.


747 posted on 05/19/2008 3:14:02 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

errata —

Muslim American Society, “State Secrets,” April 24, 2008
http://www.masnet.org/views.asp?id=5050

“None of the lawyers for the charity who have seen the document would describe its contents. But Soliman al-Buthi and the two Washington lawyers, Asim Ghafoor and Wendell Belew, agreed to tell me what they were discussing on the telephone during March and April of 2004, when the surveillance appears to have taken place.”

“I asked whether Buthi might have mentioned any defendants who could have been of interest to U.S. intelligence. Buthi, Belew, and Ghafoor all volunteered the same names: Safar al-Hawali and Salman al-Auda, two radical clerics who have been publicly praised by Osama bin Laden; and Mohammed Jamal Khalifa, a Jidda businessman who was bin Laden’s brother-in-law and onetime best friend.”

Al-Buthi’s connection is ambiguous based on this article alone and so I overstated things in a post above. We know, though, that Al-Timimi was actively in contact with and working, for example, with al-Hawali. Ali spoke to him by telephone on 9/16/2001 and 9/19/2001. (On the latter date, he spoke to him at 11 a..m. EST)


748 posted on 05/19/2008 3:55:07 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

Who murdered Khalifa? Who has his laptop, cell phones and papers?

J.M. Berger, “Khalifa Murder Investigation Marked By Confusion, Unanswered Questions,” Intelwire, March 20, 2007
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2007_03_20_exclusives.html

J.M. Berger, “U.S., Interpol Tracked Khalifa In Days Before Madagascar Murder,” Intelwire, February 16, 2007
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2007_02_16_exclusives.html


749 posted on 05/19/2008 4:46:38 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK; EdLake; TrebleRebel

Ed,

Can you quote copiously from William Clark’s “BRACING FOR ARMAGEDDON”? He discusses all of these issues, including the anthrax attack, and assumes that an Al Qaeda supporter could not get his hands on the strain or know-how. Illustrating once again the perils of publication, Oxford University now has outdone even Harvard University which published the ridiculous “anthrax as fantasy” book on Amerithrax. Professor Clark just is not informed that the scientist working with Bin Laden’s sheik was 15 feet of the inventor of the Alibekov formula and the deputy commander of USAMRIID — who had the biggest biodefense award in history. Not informed that he was speaking in Summer of 2001 alongside the “911 imam” and jihad recruiter at conferences in London and Canada. Not aware that he was actively working with Bin Laden’s sheik. Academia has not distinguished itself in the area of true crime. Now if you are an immunology or epidemiology professor, it might pay to read outside your field before publishing on the subject of counterintelligence or true crime analysis. Is he right in making Leitenberg’s point about the greater risk of death from an influenza pandemic or cancer or flood or famine? Absolutely. Is he right in making Ebright’s point that proliferation just leads to a greater risk? Absolutely. Indeed, Ayman says they only turned to weaponizing anthrax because they kept being told by USG officials how easy it was to weaponize it. But is he right in not educating himself on the small matter of the infiltration that provably occurred here? No. And the failure is a failure of epidemiology as well. Milton Leitenberg’s chapter in the 2007 book, on the other hand, after discussing the limitations of Al Qaeda’s program in 1999, at least has him focusing on the effort to recruit specialists from the West. Professor Clark is interviewed in “Bioterrorism in Context: How and why the threat of bioterror has been so greatly exaggerated.” Ed, note especially with his discussion of the forensics. How does your discussion square with his treatment of the science?
http://www.miller-mccune.com/article/355


750 posted on 05/19/2008 5:51:00 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

Ed, it is available at the University of Wisconsin.

In the DC area, you can read it at GWU, Georgetown, University of Maryland, College Park, George Mason or the Library of Congress.


751 posted on 05/19/2008 6:01:37 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

For those interested in the counterterrorism/true crime matter, a more fruitful new book to read is ARCHITECT OF JIHAD by Brynjar Lia about Abu Mus’ab Al-Sur.


752 posted on 05/19/2008 6:13:56 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel

Alibek is at pp. 151, 153, 155, 177, 197

Ayman is just 3 pages away at p. 158.

American Type Culture Collection (at GMU campus) is down the hall at 37, 111-113, 162

Amerithrax is throughout at 32-35, 42, 44, 67, 110, 113, 117, 119, 169-170, 179

AMRIID is at 25, 35, 37, 42, 66, 153

Oops. No, Al-Timimi. Ali is not in the building.

Now, we’ve got Matsumoto at 29 but that is Chizuo, not Gary.


753 posted on 05/19/2008 6:50:57 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

The must-read is:

Reviews of Architect of Global Jihad: The Life of Al Qaeda Strategist Abu Mus’ab al-Suri by Brynjar Lia are here:
http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-70030-6/architect-of-global-jihad/reviews

See also back cover blurbs -
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/023170030X/ref=sib_dp_srch_pop?v=search-inside&keywords=anthrax&go.x=7&go.y=14&go=Go%21

Index
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/023170030X/ref=sib_dp_srch_pop?v=search-inside&keywords=anthrax&go.x=7&go.y=14&go=Go%21

From Columbia University Press:

Brynjar Lia reveals al-Suri’s skill for maximizing the political impact of jihadi violence. Lia provides the first and only English translation of two key chapters from al-Suri’s Global Islamic Call and exposes his methods for building successful, autonomous cells for “individualized terrorism.”


754 posted on 05/19/2008 7:28:18 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

Excerpts from Clark’s book -

1.
Some excerpts from Clark’s book bearing on TrebleRebel and EdLake narrow focus:

on Page 167:
“... is an important finishing step, which can be accomplished in a variety of ways, including coating the spores with electrostatic agents that cause them to repel one another and not form clumps. Single spores and small clumps of a few ...”
2.
on Page 170:
“... individual spores or very small clumps of spores prior to dissemination, although they appear not to have been treated with electrostatic agents. ...”


755 posted on 05/19/2008 7:52:52 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

on Page 170:
“... individual spores or very small clumps of spores prior to dissemination, although they appear not to have been treated with electrostatic agents. ...”

Is he talking about the attack anthrax here? Does he give a source on no additives?


756 posted on 05/19/2008 8:17:25 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

William Clark describes the Dark Winter exercise from Summer 2000

“In what looks like a potential coup, the FBI has worked with Russian police and intelligence agencies to arrange a ‘sting’ operation that netted a senior Al-Qaeda operative as he was attempting to purchase fifty kilograms of plutonium in Russia. This individual had also made inquiries about obtaining certain biological warfare weapons produced some years earlier by Soviet Union laboratories. The United States needs to craft a careful plan about how much of this to make public and how much to keep under wraps. The Russians are already beginning to leak information that many on the U.S. side want kept classified.”

***

“The security advisor signals for the TV to be turned off. He sits down, and the President stands up and looks around the table.

“In view of the potential extreme urgency of the situation, I am setting tonight’s agenda temporarily aside. I talked just a few minutes ago with Secretary of the Health and Human Services, who confirms that we do indeed have smallpox in Oklahoma City. In fact the latest word I have is that there may be cases up in Pennsylvania and in Georgia as well, although these cases have not yet been confirmed to me by the Secretary. *** We are considering this a bioterrorist attack on the United States.”

Question: Did Ali Al-Timimi know the Dark Winter exercise scenario by reason of being at Discovery Hall of the DARPA-funded Center for Biodefense and sharing a fax and maildrop and water fountain with the leading anthrax scientist and the former deputy commander of USAMRIID? Did Hatfill know the Dark Winter exercise scenario? Did Berry?


757 posted on 05/19/2008 8:20:05 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

I just corresponded with Clark, he has a website - it’s VERY interesting what he just told me about the spores, that he got from insiders.

http://www.wrclarkbooks.com/


758 posted on 05/19/2008 8:49:52 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
Is he talking about the attack anthrax here? Does he give a source on no additives?

756 posted on 05/19/2008 8:17:25 AM PDT by TrebleRebel

it’s VERY interesting what he just told me about the spores, that he got from insiders.

758 posted on 05/19/2008 8:49:52 AM PDT by TrebleRebel

Hmm. Those 32 minutes between your posts must have involved a really intense and detailed discussion with Mr. Clarke. Care to share?

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

759 posted on 05/19/2008 9:32:53 AM PDT by EdLake
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Ed,
Do NOT email the fellow. It’s actually what you’ve been telling TrebleRebel for years and TrebleRebel is just pulling your leg.

TrebleRebel,
This ARCHITECT OF GLOBAL JIHAD looks extremely meaty. Why don’t you read a book and get some education.

1. Introduction 7
Sources on al-Suri’s life 21
Who is Abu Mus’ab al-Suri? 22
...
4. Afghanistan: Land of Holy War 44
The Road to Afghanistan 44
From a Syrian to a Global Jihad 46
With Abdallah Azzam and Osama bin Laden 47
Training and Combat 50
From Military Instructor to Jihadi Intellectual 52
The Rise of the Egyptian Jihadi Trend in Peshawar 54
Introducing ‘A Global Islamic Resistance’ Concept 62
Leaving Peshawar 64
5. Behind Enemy Lines 66
Algeria: His Next Jihad 67
The GIA and al-Qaida in Sudan 75
...
6. A Media Jihadi in Londonistan 1994-97 87
In the Service of the Algerian GIA 89
Bin Laden’s Media Agent 93
Al-Suri’s Film on Channel 4 95
Facilitating CNN’s bin Laden Interview 96
...
Adil Abd al-Bari: a Fellow Jihadi journalist 120
Saad al-Faqih and Khalid al-Fawwaz: Acquaintances inside the Saudi Camp 122
...
8. In the Service of the Taleban 131
Leaving Londonistan 131
Taleban: the True Islamic Emirate 134
The Afghan Training Camps 140
The Ghuraba Training Camp 142
Teaching Jihadi Terrorism 147
Moroccan jihadis, Abu Layth al-Libi and Abu Mus’ab al-Zarqawi 150
Writer and Journalist 154
Al-Suri and the al-Qaida Leadership 157
A Secessionist Leader? 165
Weapons of Mass Destruction 168
The September 11th Attacks 176
9. A 5 Million Dollar al-Qaida Fugitive 179
New Books, a Reward, and Global Fame 179
His Activities and Whereabouts 182
Al-Suri, Al-Zarqawi, and the Iraqi front 185
Masterminding Terror? 187
A Message to the Europeans, July 2005 191
Al-Suri’s Testament 192
The Capture of Al-Suri 192
10. ‘The Global Islamic Resistance Call’ (Key excerpts) 195
11. Bibliography and Sources 196
Jihadi Online Sources in Arabic 196
Abu Mus’ab Publications - Compilations 196
Abu Mus’ab’s lectures, speeches and interviews 196
Abu Mus ‘ab al-Suri’s books and booklets 197
Selected Communiques and Articles 198
Miscellaneous 199
Abu Mus’ab al-Suri’s Official and Unofficial Websites 199
Selected list of relevant Jihadi websites, 2005-2006 200
English translations of excerpts of al-Suri’s writings 200
Court and police documents 201
al-Qaida Documents Reportedly Uncovered in Afghanistan 201
Selected reports by the Comisi¿n parlamentaria de Investigaci¿n del 11-M 202
Interviews 202
Islamists 202
Journalists and researchers 203
Investigators and counterterrorism analysts 203
Books and articles 203


760 posted on 05/19/2008 9:53:31 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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