Posted on 04/16/2008 3:49:32 AM PDT by BraveMan
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Like the song says, “you need horse sense to handle horsepower.”
When a cruiser rider switches to a sport bike, the dynamics of riding are profoundly different, according to Stern.
No they aren’t.
He also found that 90% of fatalities were from head injuries, the same percentage as in cars (THERE, you "donor-cycle / murder-cycle" haters).
I'm quoting these numbers from memory, so if you google "Harry Hurt motorcycle fatalities" and I'm wrong, don't beat me up. I didn't have the time to check out every link this morning.
About 40 years ago (give or take a few decades), I would give a lecture on motorcycle safety once/month. The salients facts were concerning when accidents happened - it the first 1,000 miles, on a different bike, and within the first 90 days. Intersections were death traps, and cars were at fault in an accident 85% of the time.
Be very careful on a strange bike, no matter how long you have ridden a motorcycle.
Enjoy.
No kidding. The familiarity of being on a bike probably insulates the rider from the sensible fear that rice rocket speed should instill.
Actually the phrase is, “It’s as easy as FALLING off a bike.”
Two things I learned as a paid motorcycle messenger (for a couple years just before fax machines killed that business):
Auto drivers often do not mentally register motorcyclists in the same way way they would another car. So it’s best to keep in mind that “all cars are out to kill me” and to drive accordingly, e.g., drive offensively (not defensively).
In an emergency panic stop, you must be mentally prepared to entirely dump and abandon the bike. You can never know what’ll happen, but it’s usually better to dis-attach yourself from 500 to 1,000 pounds of cartwheeling metal than to hang on.
For good reason.
KE = (mv2)/2
Most of the mass is in the bike ... separate yourself from the bike, and you separate yourself from most of the energy ...
Ever seen a modern racecar disintegrate in a crash ... then the driver pulls himself out of the capsule and walks away?
I see it a little differently - the cruiser will typically warn the rider much earlier that he is nearing the limits of the performance envelope. The sport bike rider can be at the (much faster) limit in a fraction of the time, and stable (confident) right up until the SHTF.
That. Gtraph is very misleading due to changing time periods.
ride like ya stole it...
:)
No they aren’t.
Sorry, I have to disagree with you here... The key word is "dynamics." Sure, for the most part, things work the same. However, the power and torque curves, as well as braking power are completely different. "Dynamics." Even moving from one sport bike to another can be quite eye opening. For instance, the last time I did Kieth Code's California Superbike School, I decided to rent one of his Kaw 600s. But moving from my Ducati 900 to that Kaw was quite eye opening. Part of it, I'm sure were the tires, but the power curve was completely different, and the feel of the bike took a while to get comfortable with. Again, it came down to the dynamics. While the stopping wasn't that different, the acceleration was completely different.
By moving from a cruiser to a sport bike, every aspect of the bike's design will be different, and those design differences effect the handling of the bike. The weight, power to weight ratio, strength of the brakes, steering geometry, and probably even steering lock are all different, and these all add up to a different "personality" for the bike.
Mark
“I make it a point to practice my braking skills in an empty parking lot at the beginning of each new season. Being proficient at stopping has saved me from injury countless times”
Ditto and those tight turns to get the feel of thing back.
I doubt that most of them bother taking the MSF class. Kind of reminds me of some YouTube videos of these idiots wrecking their brand new 1800cc Hogs in the dealer's parking lot.
Frankly, I'll take my 400cc Burgman any day.
yes, the riding characteristics are different on a cafe racer than a cruiser. in a cruiser you sit like you do on a chair, on a cafe racer (Ninja type you lean very far forward, sticking your butt up like Richard Gere awaiting a gerbil...
their handling comes from an inherent instability that those unfamiliar have trouble adapting to.
I like to sneak onto a range somewhere when it’s deserted, take out my old range cards, and run through the MSF exercises for a while before doing any serious riding for the season.
kept me alive since 1975
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