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"Bush's North Korea Capitulation" (Dynamite BOLTON Op/Ed!)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 15 April 2008 | Ambassador John R. Bolton

Posted on 04/16/2008 7:23:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

President George W. Bush is fond of comparing himself to Ronald Reagan. But as he meets with South Korean President Lee Myung-bak in Washington this week, his policy regarding North Korea's nuclear weapons program looks more like something out of Bill Clinton's or Jimmy Carter's playbook. In dealing with the Soviet Union on arms control, Reagan was famous for repeating the Russian phrase, "Doveryai, no proveryai" (trust, but verify). Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev reportedly once complained to Reagan, "You use that phrase every time we meet." To which Reagan smilingly replied, "That's because I like it so much." This administration appears to have forgotten that concept altogether.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: albright2; ambassadorbolton; appeasement; bolton; bush; chrisjonghill; condi; kimjongil; kimwins; korea; lameduck; legacy; nknukes; nkorea; northkorea; nukes; peaceinourtime; state
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1 posted on 04/16/2008 7:23:17 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

2 posted on 04/16/2008 7:24:09 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SevenofNine; mkjessup; Jet Jaguar
Read on. This is good stuff. It is damned scary, though.

This legacy stuff in the waning days of the W Administration, abject appeasement, is going to get a lot of people killed if they don't watch it.

3 posted on 04/16/2008 7:25:28 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I don’t think that Ronald Reagan would have bought into the global warming scam like president Bush has,


4 posted on 04/16/2008 7:25:43 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Piquaboy

Nor socialist bailouts of irresponsible mortgage liars upon the backs of decent, wise and honest Americans.


5 posted on 04/16/2008 7:26:49 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

God help us !!!


6 posted on 04/16/2008 7:26:53 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

right again.


7 posted on 04/16/2008 7:28:33 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Ouderkirk
Do I get in trouble for posting the conclusion of the article? Couldn't help myself:

Last fall, President Bush rejected the idea of giving North Korea a pass on uranium enrichment and proliferation. Now, in the waning days of his term, he seems poised to accept it. If he does, and if this deal proceeds, we can well and truly say: "President Bush, you are no Ronald Reagan."

8 posted on 04/16/2008 7:30:13 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The whole family tree of GHWB is no good politically.
9 posted on 04/16/2008 7:31:28 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Piquaboy
The Congress and Senate needs to step up to the plate and put a stop to this Bush/Condi/Career State Department crap. Totally agreed with Ambassador Bolton here.

But the Democrats wont do it since they are all for appeasement, and the RINOs have no spine nor backbone to oppose Bush and Condi on this outrage either.

We are royally SCREWED in the process.

10 posted on 04/16/2008 7:32:30 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This must just be another case of ignorant BDS.


11 posted on 04/16/2008 7:34:17 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: AmericanInTokyo
A special place in Hell for Chia Head

Special dunce caps for three stooges: Chris “Kim Jong” Hill, Sunshine Condi, and alleged poker player Dubya.

12 posted on 04/16/2008 7:35:26 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
There might be a very different take to this than Bolton provides.

Perhaps South Korea and China are fixing to remove the government of North Korea ... soon. Reunite Korea, and along the way, redraw the border between Korea and China just a little so that Manchuria extends to the Pacific.

13 posted on 04/16/2008 7:36:56 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Is Bolton an Ambassador to someplace?


14 posted on 04/16/2008 7:38:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I do not think there is any Republicans who are in charge that has any balls. They let Rats crap all over them and do not say a word except ask for more. McCain is one of them too.


15 posted on 04/16/2008 7:38:46 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Piquaboy
I swear, he may talk tough and a little swagger right now (but so did W) but this McCain fellow, if elected, is going to give us FOUR OR EIGHT more years of this RINO international appeasement crap and sellouts. Just watch. Of course that doofus SnObama will be no better, nor Hitlery. You are so right about these Republicans at the national level, they have lost their balls if they ever had them in the first place. This Chamberlainian stuff is going to get us in a hot war on the Peninsula, maybe even a triad of Syria, Iran and North Korea all at once.

So, there are the 2008 choices folks. Enjoy.

16 posted on 04/16/2008 7:43:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Perhaps South Korea and China are fixing to remove the government of North Korea ... soon. Reunite Korea, and along the way, redraw the border between Korea and China just a little so that Manchuria extends to the Pacific.

That's incredibly unlikely. The South is not interested in a fast reunification with the North (a la East & West Germany). I doubt very much you'd be able to find a single Korean (North or South) that would be interested in giving China any part of their county.

Nope, I'm afraid that it's much more likely that Dubya is "all hat and no cattle."

17 posted on 04/16/2008 7:43:57 AM PDT by whd23
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To: RightWhale

He keeps the diplomatic title after serving, or are you just trying to be smart.


18 posted on 04/16/2008 7:44:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: RightWhale; AmericanInTokyo
Is Bolton an Ambassador to someplace?

Is there a relevant point to your question? /s

19 posted on 04/16/2008 7:45:40 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: RightWhale

He should be at State.


20 posted on 04/16/2008 7:47:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: AmericanInTokyo
are you just trying to be smart

Bolton is a loose cannon.

21 posted on 04/16/2008 7:48:35 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
He should be at State

He won't be.

22 posted on 04/16/2008 7:51:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oh they’re good politically, two of them held the highest office in the country. Good leaders? That’s another question.


23 posted on 04/16/2008 7:52:14 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

bttt


24 posted on 04/16/2008 7:52:29 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: whd23
Everyone has their price. And we're talking just a tiny bit of land; perhaps 1 mile by 10 miles, where the North Korean border touches Russia, next to the Pacific.

I'm afraid that it's much more likely that Dubya is "all hat and no cattle."

Certainly, I'm not going to take the other side of that bet.

But I'm still hopeful.

25 posted on 04/16/2008 7:54:00 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: RightWhale
And President Bush is a well fortified, solidly grounded pea shooter.

I knew you would come clean.

26 posted on 04/16/2008 7:54:15 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: ThePythonicCow

Well, it’s been clear for a long time that Bush will do nothing to North Korea that China isn’t on board with.


27 posted on 04/16/2008 7:55:04 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That’s right, I still back the Pres.


28 posted on 04/16/2008 7:55:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale

That’s your option, fine.


29 posted on 04/16/2008 7:58:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yes, I am part of the 23% that says Dubya is still okay overall.


30 posted on 04/16/2008 7:59:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale

Great. Enjoy.


31 posted on 04/16/2008 8:00:41 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: ThePythonicCow
Everyone has their price. And we're talking just a tiny bit of land; perhaps 1 mile by 10 miles, where the North Korean border touches Russia, next to the Pacific.

Do you know any Koreans? What, with their 5,000 year-old culture, the humiliation of the Japanese occupation last century, it's just not feasible that anyone is going to sell them on giving up a part of their country.

Besides, what's the rush? The North regime is dying and a better reunification will occur when the North slowly opens up and a peaceful merger can take place.

32 posted on 04/16/2008 8:06:53 AM PDT by whd23
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To: RightWhale
That’s right, I still back the Pres.

Blindly, and no matter what he does, I assume.

33 posted on 04/16/2008 8:10:27 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred Thompson 08)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"President George W. Bush is fond of comparing himself to Ronald Reagan."

Maybe my memory is going, but I do not recall President Bush ever comparing himself to Reagan.

34 posted on 04/16/2008 8:12:38 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I cannot believe that out of millions of people we end up with the three stooges. Amos,Hill,and Moe.


35 posted on 04/16/2008 8:14:40 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Spunky

He started in on that in election 2000 in the GOP primaries as I clearly recall. Probe your memory. You’ll find it.


36 posted on 04/16/2008 8:19:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (McCAIN Has Not Become a CONSERVATIVE. So Why The Hell Should *I* Become A RINO?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Is it President Jimmy W. Bush, or President George Earl Carter?
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Alllll aboard for *LEGACYVILLE*!!!!

Choo choo baby, choooooo chooooooo!!!!
37 posted on 04/16/2008 9:40:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: Prokopton; All
This must just be another case of ignorant BDS.

Yeah, and it looks like you've got a case of it:

"Bolton Derangment Syndrome"

Can you disprove what Bolton is saying?

No, I didn't think so. Now how about taking off those BushBot blinders and pay attention to this surrender and capitulation to Comrade Chia Pet by the President George W. Legacy Administration?
38 posted on 04/16/2008 9:44:04 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: RightWhale
Bolton is a loose cannon

Bolton is the only conservative Republican who dares speak the truth, instead of rubbering stamping George W. Legacy's foolhardy adventures in international diplomacy.

Tell us what the difference is between the Clinton-Carter appeasement of North Korea and what our illustrious President is about to sign off on?
39 posted on 04/16/2008 9:46:27 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: RightWhale
That’s right, I still back the Pres.

Thank you for that Laura, but you shouldn't be so hard on yourself, you're not a whale, not at all.
40 posted on 04/16/2008 9:47:24 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup
Yeah, and it looks like you've got a case of it:

"Bolton Derangment Syndrome"

Yeah, and it looks like you have a serious case of IDOSS (inability to detect obvious sarcasm syndrome).

41 posted on 04/16/2008 10:10:14 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: mkjessup
Oh come on! It's getting so that people that still admire and support our Pres. are getting treated very disrespectfully on this site by some people that sit and trash him all day! I would expect this from the left wing, but when this behavior is coming from the right, it's sickening!

There, that is my opinion and you can trash me all you want! And yes, you have the right to your opinion too. But much of what some of you Bush-bashers say reveals much more about you than you know. A lot more than it does about us so-called “Bush-bots”! If saying this makes me a “Bush-bot”, then so be it!

42 posted on 04/16/2008 10:39:45 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: Prokopton

Always include the “/sarc off” tag.


43 posted on 04/16/2008 10:51:27 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: mkjessup
Always include the “/sarc off” tag.

No.

44 posted on 04/16/2008 10:57:12 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: dsutah; All

The only positive things I can point to about the President these days is that he has kept his pants on in the Oval Office (unlike his predecessor), the tax cuts were good public policy, and Roberts and Alito are on the SCOTUS.

But we do America no service to blindly support a President who is failing to carry out his Oath of Office, and selling out friends and allies while failing to take effective action against our enemies, beyond running his mouth (because talk is cheap).

As I’ve said many times, George W. Bush would have been a great VP for *President* Dick Cheney, because GWB simply wasn’t ready for prime time in 2000, and these coming crumbling months of his Administration are going to validate that.

Go ahead and engage in your mindless hero worship, that says PLENTY about you and your fellow BushBots, and that’s exactly what you are.


45 posted on 04/16/2008 10:59:40 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: Prokopton
No

Then don't b*tch and whine when you get taken seriously.
46 posted on 04/16/2008 11:00:29 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

BTTT


47 posted on 04/16/2008 11:35:13 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: mkjessup
Then don't b*tch and whine when you get taken seriously.

No bitching or whining, just amusement at some FReeper's hair triggers and emotional outbursts.

48 posted on 04/16/2008 11:40:09 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton
You said in your post #11:

"This must just be another case of ignorant BDS."

No qualifier, no 'sarc off' tag, just a statement made in apparent seriousness.

Now you say it was to find 'hair triggers' and provoke 'emotional outbursts'.

If that was your only reason to post, you're wasting JimRob's bandwidth, and it establishes that you're nothing but a sh*t-disturber.

Try Usenet, you'll fit right in there.
49 posted on 04/16/2008 11:45:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well, it’s been clear for a long time that Bush will do nothing to North Korea that China isn’t on board with.

*BUMP*

Indeed!
50 posted on 04/16/2008 11:47:16 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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