[Finny]

"I know there are 12-year-olds in the world having sex. But it's not normal behavior."

That is an erroneous statement as it stands. But it depends upon how normal is defined. It's normal from a biological point of view for pubertal mammals to have sex. Other points of view (religious, parental, etc.) may disagree.

Absolutely correct. There is no "normal." It's an illusion. The freest, most prosperous, productive civilzations in most of our history have been ones that declared a Judeo-Christian ethic. The most barbaric and cruel societies, where innocents including children are sacrificed, where females are supressed to sub-human status, where slavery either by law or by socialism, is okay -- not a one of them declares the Judeo Christian ethic.

Our Judeo-Christian foundation is the key that we turn and open the door to our lives, progress, pursuit, and freedom. When we allow its tenets to be rejected, we suffer the consequences and it should come as no surprise. It isn't as if there haven't been plenty of examples over the centuries.

[Rudder]

Our Judeo-Christian foundation... has surely benefited Mankind, and is often left out of the equation in debates like these. Humans can be absolutely terrible in their "normal" state, but they also can be absolutely enlightened in their vision and ideals. This duality has always been at the root of the Judeo-Christian religions.

[MrB]

The freest, most prosperous, productive civilzations in most of our history have been ones that declared a Judeo-Christian ethic. The most barbaric and cruel societies, where innocents including children are sacrificed, where females are supressed to sub-human status, where slavery either by law or by socialism, is okay -- not a one of them declares the Judeo Christian ethic.

Great point - this needs to be expounded upon and shoved in the faces of all the "multicultural" crowd.