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To: cogitator
Nope.


19 posted on 04/17/2008 8:20:17 AM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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To: Justa

150 years is not long in the great scheme (which makes some of the CO2-temperature theories suspect). When did accurate measurements of solar wind begin?


20 posted on 04/17/2008 8:58:39 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Justa
Is their data after 1985?

"As a prelude to a new book, Nigel Calder (who was the editor of New Scientist for four years in the 1960s) has written an op-ed for the Times (UK) basically recapitulating the hype over the Svensmark cosmic ray/climate experiments we reported on a couple of month ago (see Taking Cosmic Rays for a spin). At the time we pointed out that while the experiments were potentially of interest, they are a long way from actually demonstrating an influence of cosmic rays on the real world climate, and in no way justify the hyperbole that Svensmark and colleagues put into their press releases and more 'popular' pieces. Even if the evidence for solar forcing were legitimate, any bizarre calculus that takes evidence for solar forcing of climate as evidence against greenhouse gases for current climate change is simply wrong. Whether cosmic rays are correlated with climate or not, they have been regularly measured by the neutron monitor at Climax Station (Colorado) since 1953 and show no long term trend. No trend = no explanation for current changes."

(Summary: correlation is not causation!)

24 posted on 04/17/2008 10:52:56 AM PDT by cogitator
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