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Colt's Grip on Military Rifle Market Called Bad Deal
yahoo.com ^ | 4/20/2008 | RICHARD LARDNER

Posted on 04/20/2008 1:10:11 PM PDT by kellynla

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1 posted on 04/20/2008 1:10:11 PM PDT by kellynla
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At 1500 somalians, is the M4 the “best bang for the buck?”


2 posted on 04/20/2008 1:11:46 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Keep Congress out of it.


3 posted on 04/20/2008 1:13:34 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: kellynla

kinda nice to keep the business and money in the US, ask american companies to develop a new model. HK416 is pretty cool and HK certainly has its paid lobbyists in the US Congress.


4 posted on 04/20/2008 1:15:25 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

If it is only about money, I’m sure China makes some inexpensive arms.


5 posted on 04/20/2008 1:23:12 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: kellynla

So what’s Coburn got in mind? Norinco? Kalashnikov?


6 posted on 04/20/2008 1:24:56 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: kellynla

This pretty much seems like a hit piece on Colt. If there are problems with the gun, by all means fix it or put out another bid for design and price and replace the thing.

Keep production in the United States.

Someone is always belching about a corporation making money of the U.S. Government and wars. That’s the way it works. If you put out a good product, you should get fair return. A healthy company makes for a good source when quality merchandise is required.

Since when is it a business concern to give product away, just because the purchaser is the federal government.


7 posted on 04/20/2008 1:25:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It doesn't matter he isn't conservative. Now it doesn't matter if it's not Constitutional.)
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‘Since when is it a business concern to give product away, just because the purchaser is the federal government.”

man you’ve apparently never dealt with a contracting officer for the federal government. those folks are TIGHT


8 posted on 04/20/2008 1:29:23 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: DoughtyOne

doncha know?

Defense firms are obligated to put out products that perform perfectly (in spite of the governments inability to define the requirements) and guaranty the taxpayers they are making no profit on the contract.


9 posted on 04/20/2008 1:29:44 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: driftdiver

Probably so. I haven’t. Thanks.


10 posted on 04/20/2008 1:32:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It doesn't matter he isn't conservative. Now it doesn't matter if it's not Constitutional.)
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To: G Larry

Sorta seems like it.


11 posted on 04/20/2008 1:33:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It doesn't matter he isn't conservative. Now it doesn't matter if it's not Constitutional.)
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To: kellynla
according to interviews and research conducted by The Associated Press

I almost stopped reading right there. Maybe there's something in it, and maybe there isn't. But I don't trust AP, and I don't much trust congresscritters either, until I know who's paying them off.

The weapons jam in the sand? Well, weapons tend to do that. But is it a design flaw, or just a necessary consequence of using any weapons in a country with frequent sand storms?

12 posted on 04/20/2008 1:35:29 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DoughtyOne

I was just agreeing with you in an off hand confused sort of way. its pretty amazing how complicated the procurement process is. the sheer amount of bureaucracy is mind boggling.


13 posted on 04/20/2008 1:42:51 PM PDT by driftdiver
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I agree. Colt could easily buy H&K’s piston system patent and introduce them in their weapons...better yet...someone in America should introduce something similar.


14 posted on 04/20/2008 1:44:07 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Cicero

Theres an en episode of future weapons where the host demonstrates the HK416 at the companies range. They stuff it in a box of sand and then take it out, shake it off and shoot it full auto for about 30 rds. Then they stick it in a tub of water and do the same.

Looks cool, but I have no idea if its really that great. Regardless I don’t like the idea of depending on a foreign company for our main battle rifle.


15 posted on 04/20/2008 1:45:29 PM PDT by driftdiver
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It would be interesting to see how many of the Army Logistics Command employees end up on the Colt payroll after retirement.


16 posted on 04/20/2008 1:46:48 PM PDT by ktime
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To: kellynla
It being in Connecticut is reason enough to get away from it. The New England States are the Cesspool of America,just after San Fran and NYC.
17 posted on 04/20/2008 1:52:24 PM PDT by gunnedah
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It would be enlightening to know exactly what is delivered for $1,500 a copy for the M4, assuming that's the actual price to start with. This is the ignorant and arrogant MSM, after all.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

18 posted on 04/20/2008 1:56:20 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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"And if you tend to have the problem at the wrong time, you're putting your life on the line," says Coburn, who began examining the M4's performance last year after receiving complaints from soldiers.

"William Keys, Colt's chief executive officer, says the M4 gets impressive reviews from the battlefield.

Which is it. someone is not being truthful

19 posted on 04/20/2008 1:58:28 PM PDT by chainsaw ( No black racist Muslims in the WH either)
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To: kellynla

Colt is overpriced. So is HK and FN


20 posted on 04/20/2008 2:01:11 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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