But Maury Povich says:
"Who's The Daddy?
Posted on 04/21/2008 1:53:38 PM PDT by Pebcak
“They sure didn’t mind getting a Welfare check from Gentiles.”
Are you assuming facts not in evidence?
Yep. Can’t coach the kids on what to say and not say, when CPS workers are listening.
“They sure didn’t mind getting a Welfare check from Gentiles.”
The compound in Texas is unique, I don’t know what they were doing in Texas to generate money, but we do know that the rest of the cult was paying for the compound’s construction, the building of the 10,000 member cults first temple, and at least some of the support of the handpicked members that were collected and assigned to this Texas branch compound.
Since we know about the “bleeding of the beast” practice of the cult, we also know that some of that income was spent on the Texas branch of operations.
Myself, I've been told about all sorts of horrors at the ranch - and I'll cede that the FLDS have a track record for this sort of thing - yet I have not heard the things that would indicate that all of these foul accusations were true.
I've yet to hear that there actually are pregnant teenage girls among the children and, if there were, I'd expect to hear that the children are receiving proper care from an Ob/Gyn. Before you jump on this, yes, I've heard that "possibly pregnant girls were observed" by LEO's. Forgive me if I wait to hear a medical opinion on those alleged pregnancies. So what I know of this so far is unconfirmed.
None of the men are under arrest for anything other than 'interfering with an investigation' - which is a nice catch-all for cops to use when they get abusive and just want to arrest someone - it will not disappoint me when the charges are dropped against the two men who were thus charged.
Yes, these are not the kind of people I'd hold up as any kind of example, but they don't deserve to be targets for some of the wide-open bigotry I've been seeing on here lately where anyone citing the Constitution or etc. is being branded a child molester, a pedophile, or being branded a Mormon as if that were in and of itself something horrible.
Thanks for pointing that out, now I don't have to.
More like: not let them plot without being monitored.
Sounds eerily familiar.....
Of course they see nothing wrong. The Feds are doing it to somebody else, so there’s no problem.
The article does not say they wanted to pray PRIVATELY. It stated this: "Without exception," the motion states, "respondent mothers have reported that the department will not let them pray without being monitored."
How do you know they weren't trying to hold a "prayer circle" during which orders from the "prophet" could have been passed along from a senior woman to the others? I doubt very much that individual prayers were being "spied" on.
Too much opinion with too little information going on around here. My opinion is as valid as yours.
Wow, are you gullible.
Nobody is complaining if they really wanted to pray and if that's what they were really doing.
If they wanted to pray privately, they could do it without anyone knowing anyway. Nobody can tell what you're doing if you just sit and stare out the window. Or if you close your eyes and look like you're napping.
My biggest concern is that a precedent is being set regarding people's religion. Today the FLSD, tomorrow the Catholics or the Baptists, or any other religion the gummit decides is "abusive".
I'm certainly not for child abuse, but there are just too many unanswered questions here for an outsider like me to be able to make any judgments on this whole deal.
The best thing I can say about it (so far, anyway) is that at least, to date, our gummit hasn't burned them all alive.
Isn’t it sort of pathetic that the children can’t say for certain who their father is.
They are free to refuse compliance.
They are being told they will not get their children back unless they do. Makes it very hard to not comply.
Now, to my point. The FReepers I take exception to are accusing people such as myself of being Mormons because we're not happy with the processes and evidence in this case.
As the relative of a Mormon, do you agree with me that it is evidence of bigotry when the term 'Mormon' is used as a denounciation and a perjorative? Because, as you would well know, equating LDS and FLDS is quite a stretch.
Hearsay, so far but I've read that some do not know who their biological mothers are.
Just look at the hell this woman has brought.
At least the Clintons and Janet Reno are out of office or the Justice Dept may have just burned the place to the ground like Waco and be done with the mess.
My family and yours may be next.
But Maury Povich says:
"Who's The Daddy?
“Isn’t it sort of pathetic that the children can’t say for certain who their father is.”
My biological father was never around and wanted nothing to do with me. I was raised by my step-dad from the age of nine. I have NO doubts about to whom I am referring when I say the word “Dad.”
“Also, refusing a DNA test when one is not accused of a crime is a right protected under the 5th Amendment. Some judge and prosecutor who are out on a fishing expedition should not be allowed to cause people to incriminate themselves for unknown offenses. “
In related news:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2002595
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