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Police respond to bear [Vernon, NJ]
New Jersey Herald ^ | 4/22/2008 | Bruce A. Scruton

Posted on 04/22/2008 6:12:42 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe

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To: NewJerseyJoe

Around 5 or 6 years ago I was looking at houses up in the Highland Lakes area of Vernon on a beautiful saturday afternoon. The realtor was in a separate car while my family and I followed him. After pulling away from one house, we made a turn down a quiet, street and saw a trail of garbage across the road. After making another turn we saw a mature bear rutting around in someone’s front yard (this was on a crisp, clear saturday afternoon, mind you). We turned another corner and saw another bear scampering across the street. My wife and I couldn’t envision any peaceful days spent in Highland Lakes wondering if our 3 young children would become “cuddle toys” for those “mischievous, fun-loving” bears. We stopped our house search in Vernon at once.


41 posted on 04/22/2008 9:13:52 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: tcostell

tcostell, thanks for posting those links to the blog articles. That blogger is saying exactly the same thing that I and many others have been saying for years: it’s going to take the killing (and probable consumption) of a child before people start to wake up in this state. Although — and it sickens me that I have to point this out — Kehoe and her ilk will be very public in saying “That child and his family shouldn’t have been living there in the first place.”


42 posted on 04/22/2008 9:37:52 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

In Alaska, all bears are shot second time seen around anybodys cabin; it’s seen as everyones duty.

I had one neighbor who had bear in his cabin when he come home once. Bear wouldn’t leave cabin and was shot inside one of the bedrooms; what a stinky mess. One of the local Indians had a bear knock his heavy wooden door right off hinges with one swat. His german shepard chased bear off into the woods.

Bears need to fear people or you end up having problems.


43 posted on 04/22/2008 9:47:12 AM PDT by Eska
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To: MarDav; Malsua; paulcissa
> saw a trail of garbage across the road.

VERY familiar with that sight! Bears don't just stop and eat garbage -- they pick up the bags in their mouths, and take it to a place more convenient for them. (I've witnessed this.)

A few years ago, I came home from work to see a trail of garbage from my driveway to the remote recesses of my back property. I knew it wasn't mine, because I don't have any -- I don't use the local garbage pickup (I'm single and take my one or two bags a month to my parents' house). The bear had taken the garbage to the most inaccessible part of my yard -- which happens to have a high water table and is soft (usually muddy) most of the year. I had to go back there with knee-high rubber boots and Playtex gloves to clean up the mess, with flies and skeeters and gnats buzzing all around me.

My neighbor (whose garbage it was) came over, saw that it was his, and apologized. He also stayed to help clean it up -- he's a good guy.

After that, I decided that, although I like watching bears, I didn't want them lingering around my property any more, and would discourage them from "hanging around" when I could.

A few weeks after that, on a Saturday in May, a momma bear and her two cubs were passing through the backyard one morning. I'd seen them a number of times before (they're territorial). I stuck my head out the back door, and just made some whooping noises to scare them away. Well, wouldn't you know that, as the cubs went up trees, that momma bear crossed about 35 feet of vegetation, rocks, and fallen trees in about 3 seconds, and was charging at me in my back doorway!

Although I wasn't expecting that, I knew in the back of my head that it was a possibility. So I quickly closed and locked the door (which is a sturdy door, not the hollow kind), and went around the side window to look. She had already stopped her bluff charge (about 15 feet from the door) and was heading back to her cubs.

44 posted on 04/22/2008 9:49:32 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You can mess (a bit) with Momma bear, but don’t you go messin’ with her cubs!

I used to go camping in Adirondack State Park with a buddy and if we discovered any bear tracks along the trail, we would think to ourselves, “Cool, we’re going to see some wildlife.” But if there were ever smaller, cub-tracks mixed in, we immediately got our guard way up.


45 posted on 04/22/2008 9:55:43 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I have a friend who lives down the mountain from Highland Lakes in Vernon (I forget the road you turn off of...maybe off of Rt 94 somewhere) and he would leave his dog’s food out over night (wasn’t exactly meticulous about sealing up his garbage, either—this, with 5 young children running around!). He would find himself sharing his yard with some bears every now and then...


46 posted on 04/22/2008 10:00:53 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Don’t they know he has a right to keep bear arms?!? ;-P


47 posted on 04/22/2008 10:04:43 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Thanks Joe. And please remember the most important quote in the piece:

"Reader please take note, I’m already working on a piece for next September titled: “Experienced hunter seeks private land for NJ Bear hunt”… I promise I’ll say very nice things about you."

I'm hoping for something near the Bear swamp, but I'll be as flexible as I need to be. Please tell all your friends in the zone.

48 posted on 04/22/2008 10:12:15 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

My best Rte 23 bear story:
Worked in Newfoundland off Oak Ridge Road. I was the intern, so every day I’d be up at the Dunkin Donuts on 23S at the La Rue/Clinton Rd exit.

One day I roll up to the drive up window, and a bear walks up behind me and opens the dumpster. I had a 5 minute order for 6 people, during this time the bear grabs a bag, walks past my car on the passenger side, stops, looks at me, and proceeds on his way. I’m freaked out, but then it gets better. This bear knew how to cross 23 during the Clinton Rd U Turn green light. When the light for the Clinton Rd North jughandle turned green, the bear looked both ways and took off north.


49 posted on 04/22/2008 12:14:25 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: paulcissa

Kehoe wasn’t one of the four arrested in 2004. That was Lynda Smith, the queen lunatic in West Milford.


50 posted on 04/22/2008 12:16:33 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Typical liberal media...the color of the bear was not provided. I bet I know what it was.


51 posted on 04/22/2008 12:20:09 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MarDav

The bears aren’t quite so “thick as thieves” in bitter Northeastern Pennsylvania as you saw them to be in Highland Lakes, MarDav, but they, and the newly-arrived coyotes, and the mountain lion rumors used to give pause to my Brooklyn wife, years ago. These days, though, she’s a bit more perceptive and, when visiting relatives, fears the various, nefarious, denizens of New York infinitely more than she fears any forest critter.


52 posted on 04/22/2008 12:22:27 PM PDT by flowerplough (I suck at Photoshop)
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To: MarDav

In 2006 I hiked out the park system just a mile north of the incident location in this article. I had the misfortune to walk between a mother bear and 2 yearlings who were mock chasing a few deer. I immediately turn around and bolt, 1/4 mile back down the trail i run into a family with young kids, I admonish them to immediately turn around as there is a mother bear with cubs ahead, and in a very bad mood. These fools pull out pocket cameras and tell the kids to start running... toward the bears.


53 posted on 04/22/2008 12:23:38 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Thanks for the clarification! Another member of the local enviro-nazi club.


54 posted on 04/22/2008 12:32:55 PM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Geez! That’s funny...and not...all at the same time!


55 posted on 04/22/2008 12:34:17 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: JerseyHighlander
Wait until you read this. About 5 years ago, I was heading down Route 23 (southbound) early on a Sunday morning -- almost no other cars on the road. I was past the Reservoir Road exit, passing the "island of trees" between the north and south lanes.

I was checking the rearview mirror, as any driver does every few seconds, and saw two things simultaneously: a bear running out of the woods (from the reservoir side, toward the median), and an SUV way behind me -- on a collision course with the bear.

The front of that SUV hit the bear squarely, and the bear went down on its side, spinning around from the impact. Just before the rearview scene passed out of my sight, I saw -- you won't believe this -- the bear got up and ran back into the woods.

True story. All of this happened in the course of just a few seconds.

I have no doubt that that bear didn't get very far, and that it died of massive internal injuries soon afterwards. After all, the SUV was traveling at highway speed on an empty road. But it is a testament to the stamina of these animals, that the beast was even able to get up.

56 posted on 04/22/2008 7:26:26 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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