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TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE, HILLARY'S PENNSYLVANIA WIN
NY Post | April 23, 2008 | DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Posted on 04/23/2008 5:50:42 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Hillary Clinton refuses to die. Having been given up for dead after losing Iowa, she rebounded in New Hampshire. Then a string of 11 straight consecutive losses - followed by a win in Ohio and a tie (in delegates) in Texas. Now, she's won Pennsylvania.

Problem is, it doesn't mean anything.

Because of the Democratic Party's arcane proportional-representation rules, her win stands to give her a net gain of 10 to 15 delegates when all is counted. That means that Barack Obama will fall from a lead of 161 in elected delegates to about 145 or so. Big deal.

The primaries coming up in the next two weeks - Indiana and North Carolina - are likely to give Obama back a goodly portion of those delegates. By the time all the primaries have been held, after June 3, there is no doubt that Obama will lead by more than 100 elected delegates, and likely 150. From there, it will be an easy route to the nomination.

The Democratic superdelegates aren't about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates. If they ever tried it, we'd see a repeat of the demonstrations that smashed the 1968 Chicago convention and ruined Hubert Humphrey's chances of victory.

Clinton won Pennsylvania for two key reasons: Only Democrats could vote in the primary, and the Keystone State electorate is dominated by the elderly, who are staunchly for Clinton.

Despite her claims of electability, Hillary has never done well among independent voters. And Obama usually loses the Democrats. Pennsylvania's closed-primary rules gave her a key advantage.


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1 posted on 04/23/2008 5:50:42 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04232008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/too_little__too_late_107751.htm
2 posted on 04/23/2008 5:54:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: COUNTrecount

“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.”
- H.P. Lovecraft

“Not dead which eternal lie stranger eons death may die”
- Metallica (The Thing That Should Not Be)


3 posted on 04/23/2008 5:55:12 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: COUNTrecount
TOE-SUCKER SPEAKS!
4 posted on 04/23/2008 5:55:41 AM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: COUNTrecount
Hillary has never done well among independent voters. And Obama usually loses the Democrats.

Gee, there's a recipe for success!

5 posted on 04/23/2008 6:02:55 AM PDT by Obadiah (I dream of the day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned!)
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To: COUNTrecount

I thought that the whole idea of the ‘superdelegate’ was to inject a modicum of sanity into Democratic proceedings.
Strange as it is, the Hildabeast is the ‘saner’ of the two.
“Evil” beats “Deranged”.


6 posted on 04/23/2008 6:03:07 AM PDT by Flintlock (that)
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To: COUNTrecount

With the ENTIRE WORLD watching the convention, the dems will never shaft the black guy who won more states, more delegates, and more votes to give it to Hillary. Why would they? It would result in civil war in the party, the youth and blacks would stay home in NOV, and they’d go from a 90% chance of losing in NOV to a 99.9% chance, and they’d destroy the party in the process.


7 posted on 04/23/2008 6:05:22 AM PDT by ProfessorGage
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To: COUNTrecount

Democratic super-delegates aren’t about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates.

That’s just their purpose. Why else have them if it didn’t make a difference.


8 posted on 04/23/2008 6:07:20 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be 15% too!)
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To: COUNTrecount

when Dean seats Florida’s delegates, beside the $h!t hitting the fan, it will change everything.

The Toe-Queen’s feud with Hitlery is well documented and anything he says about her is an attempt to push poll her into oblivion.


9 posted on 04/23/2008 6:08:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: COUNTrecount
The Democratic superdelegates aren't about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates. If they ever tried it, we'd see a repeat of the demonstrations that smashed the 1968 Chicago convention and ruined Hubert Humphrey's chances of victory.

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They may do it if they think she's got a better chance of winning than Obama. At least, I hope so.

10 posted on 04/23/2008 6:11:44 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: COUNTrecount
The Democratic superdelegates aren't about to risk a massive and sanguinary civil war by taking the nomination away from the candidate who won more elected delegates. If they ever tried it, we'd see a repeat of the demonstrations that smashed the 1968 Chicago convention and ruined Hubert Humphrey's chances of victory.

Come the convention, Barack Obama will likely have more elected delegates but Hillary Clinton will almost certainly have a majority of the popular vote. Why should the Superdelegates go against the majority of their voters and cast their votes for Obama?

After 2000, we have been treated to eight long years of Democrat whining about how the popular vote should decide elections. Now they have a chance to put that principle into practice, and it is entirely under their control. How are they going to casually toss the concept of one-man, one-vote into the rubbish?

11 posted on 04/23/2008 6:45:04 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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You used the word “principle” in your statement.

That’s not in their vocabulary.


12 posted on 04/23/2008 6:50:17 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

There are two things to know about Dickie: his “analysis” and predictions are almost always wrong, and he hates Hillary as much as he loves Bill. (Sometimes he acts like Bill’s jilted homosexual lover-—but of course we know that’s not true, cause Bubba don’t do “da down low.”)


13 posted on 04/23/2008 6:52:32 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Flintlock

Yes, Barak Obama is precisely the type of unelectable candidate the superdelegate system is designed to prevent. It will be fascinating to see if the machine works.


14 posted on 04/23/2008 6:52:40 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Menehune56
Yes, Barak Obama is precisely the type of unelectable candidate the superdelegate system is designed to prevent. It will be fascinating to see if the machine works.

And entertaining. Stock up on popcorn before the show.

15 posted on 04/23/2008 6:55:10 AM PDT by OB1kNOb ("We like Mr. Obama and we hope he will win the election." - Ahmed Yousef, Hamas PM advisor)
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To: COUNTrecount
That’s not in their vocabulary.

He's the guy who runs the school, right?!?

16 posted on 04/23/2008 6:58:37 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: ProfessorGage

I think they know that odumbo is a loser and are hoping for a way to cut there strings with this snake oil salesman


17 posted on 04/23/2008 7:04:45 AM PDT by italianquaker (Odumbo the buffoon)
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To: Old Sarge

There’s a joker in the deck. The Dems still have to deal with the Michigan and Florida delegates. If they’re allowed to vote, what happens to Obama’s delegate lead?


18 posted on 04/23/2008 7:07:09 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Unapologetically European)
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To: Old Sarge

What did Hillary DO to Morris, actually?

For him it seems very personal.

It would be interesting to hear all the things he REALLY knows about her!


19 posted on 04/23/2008 7:12:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf
What did Hillary DO to Morris, actually?

As reported in the WP..

On the third day of the '96 Democratic convention in Chicago, word spread that the supermarket tabloid Star, which had carried the Gennifer Flowers story, was about to reveal Morris's toe-sucking relationship with Rowlands. Clinton dispatched aide Erskine Bowles to see Morris, who admitted the allegations were true but didn't see the need to resign.

"Why?" Morris asked. "What the hell did I do that he wasn't accused of doing in the exact same magazine four years ago?" "You've admitted it's true," Bowles replied, according to Morris's book. Morris, in tears the next morning, agreed to leave the campaign and would later describe himself as a sex addict. Two weeks after his downfall, Morris was giving a sworn statement to House investigators. He denied telling Rowlands that Hillary Clinton had ordered the collection of FBI files on hundreds of Republicans, as the call girl had told the Star.

Despite his disgrace, Morris continued to quietly advise the president. On Jan. 21, 1998, the day the Monica Lewinsky story broke in the mainstream press, Morris says Clinton called, explained that he had "slipped up" with Lewinsky and asked Morris to take a poll about the potential impact. When Morris reported that Americans would favor his impeachment or resignation if he lied under oath, he says Clinton replied: "Well, we'll just have to win, then."

Panetta blames his old antagonist for steering Clinton down the path of deception. "It was that unfortunate advice at one of the crucial moments of his presidency . . . that played into his decision not to confront this thing directly," Panetta says. "It tells you a lot about their relationship." Morris's fateful poll discussion with Clinton became public last August when the strategist testified before Kenneth Starr's grand jury – and promptly went on Fox to reveal what he had said behind closed doors.

Although Clinton had stopped talking to Morris after that tumultuous week in January, Morris continued to fax him advice. But by August he was completely off the reservation, telling the grand jury that what he dubbed the "Nixonian" secret police "stems more from Hillary Clinton than from Bill." Days later, he infuriated the president by speculating about the first lady on a Los Angeles radio show – that perhaps Clinton's behavior could be explained by a frosty marriage.

He's got this bizarre love-hate thing going with Clinton. And, as you can see, the ground always seems to be shifting underneath him. A classic case for the shrink's couch, as it were.

20 posted on 04/23/2008 8:05:44 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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