[CottonBall]

What you need to understand though, is that we Conservatives and Republicans have NO POWER over liberal Democrats.

What you say is true. But I also think we have very little power over a liberal Republican that has already thanked Dems and indies for his nomination.

You have a point about amnesty and Miers. I just don't think people will be able to continue the volume of the fight to shoot down every time they push amnesty, socialism, whatever.... at some point, they will win as long as they have a liberal in the WH that won't veto it. Doesn't really matter which one of the 3. BUT, we might be able to get a conservative in there in 2012 after a Dem presidency that was a failure.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

“Doesn’t really matter which one of the 3. BUT, we might be able to get a conservative in there in 2012 after a Dem presidency that was a failure.”

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Your assumptions are dangerously naive.

Dems won’t be weaker in 2012. With an incumbent - they’ll be formidable.

McCain is not young enough to run again in ‘12. Republicans will have a very strong opening for a more conservative nominee - and everyone needs to start finding one. Pronto.

But we need to win and keep the Whitehouse first.

Giving away the biggest prize of all, voluntarily, is foolish. At best.