The Dollar Looks Ready to Rally

Barron's ^ | 29 April 2008 | By KOPIN TAN

[AndyJackson]

Banks do not need to have anything to open a loan

I don't know what opening a loan means (other than the paperwork that says the borrower will pay back the loan about to be made). When the bank actually makes the loan, it writes out a check for real money against real cash on deposit that will get withdrawn by the the federal reserve's clearing house when that check hits another banks inbox. If your bank does not have the money on deposit for that check, a lot of very nasty things start happening (lawsuits and forensic audits by Justice, your bank gets closed down, folks go to jail for fraud). Even Toddster and I are apparently in agreement on that particular fact.

[AndyJackson]

You are wrong that the way to do that is to outlaw finance, or have a big depression with a contracting money supply, or outlaw the Fed, or any of the usual Paulean nonsense.

You both use ad hominem's and put unuttered words in the mouths of others. Ron Paul is more or less an Austrian, and what is wrong about the Austrian school of economics in the minds of everyone who opposes them right now is that they predicted that the mess we are in as a result of runaway monetary expansion (which only about 3 idiots around here think that the FED does not control) ALWAYS ends in a bust, and that the way you get out of this mess is not to get into it. Once in, you either have a collapse of the currency through runaway inflation (and devaluation) or you have massive default. You can pick your medicine, but you cannot pick no medicine). Your choices are amputation or death through Gangrene. The wonder drug for two decades of debt accumulation that are invested in unsound enterprises does not exist. Nothing can turn empty high rise condos or sprawling unfinished housing projects into pharmacies or factories (the major expense in which is labor and specialized equipment and not the empty shell of a useless building). Even the economic value of the land is paltry compared to the previously ascribed investment value.

Like it or not we are stuck with a central bank, and no one has called for outlawing central banks or more absurdly attempting to outlaw finance. A lot of us think it is time we got off the charlattan patent medicine free gifts of credit expansion merry-go-round- that has characterized the ignorance and naivte of the American culture since before the revolution. You do that through policies of sound money. What we are appalled by is that folks think you can abandon the laws of accounting or physics, the notion that through finance you can get something for nothing. Expanding an economy requires that excess capital GOODS (intellectual capital, labor, commodities) be accumulated that can be put into expanding means of production. No amount of credit expansion substitutes for the hard work of creating new enterprise to generate goods and services that make life better for humans in the US. Finance is a component, yes, but it is only the component that measures how much capital you have accumulated for investment, if any. Finance itself creates NOTHING. (Go read Adam Smith if you remain confused on this point. He got it more than 200 years ago).

[Toddsterpatriot]

1. We have not had a tight money policy in this country since Volker was chair.

You don't think an inverted yield curve is a sign of tight money?

You never admitted that new loans increase M2. Figure it out yet?

[groanup]

1. We have not had a tight money policy in this country since Volker was chair.

Oh, I get it. The Fed has to raise o/n rates to 18% or they aren't tight. Sheesh.

2. Orange County was not caused by tight money. It was caused by an idiot

Oh you're right about that. The tight money just drew back the curtain on the idiot. Same thing for LTCM, the dot com bubble, the 1987 crash, and now the RE bubble/Bear Stearns.

Notice how every time the Fed, what would you call it: gently tightens? a major entity seems to disintegrate. I guess you'd prefer that be major entiTIES. Hell, bring down the entire financial system and take us back to a primary, agricultural economy.

[Sprite518]

A phony desperate rally. If OPEC abandons the US Dollar, then expect China to dump their Treasury bonds. Wall Street see’s one ok report in a Sea of bad news, and they go nuts. We are going to fall like Rome unless we change.

[AndyJackson]

I get it. The Fed has to raise o/n rates to 18% or they aren't tight. Sheesh.

Just exactly when was the FED tight with money expansion in this graph. Arguably briefly in the 1994 time frame. Otherwise, it has been up up and away in Greenspan's beautiful balloon, pretty much straight line logarithmic growth.

Notice how every time the Fed, what would you call it: gently tightens? a major entity seems to disintegrate. I guess you'd prefer that be major entiTIES.

Tell me which of these entities were major engines of expansion of US economic productivity. They were merely speculative participants in our transformation to an information/service economy.

Hell, bring down the entire financial system and take us back to a primary, agricultural economy.

I advocate an economy where we actually provide our own goods and services, you know, like start building lots of nuclear power, transform our transportation system to something sustainable that does not run off of middle east oil. But we used to be the world's leading industrial power without traders creating and trading 10 x our GDP in derivatives, and we could probably survive just fine without those guys.

[groanup]

Notice that sometimes the line is moving up.

Tell me which of these entities were major engines of expansion of US economic productivity

The dot com revolution transformed the world and still is - especially in the area of productivity.

The real estate market isn't exactly a potted plant.

[groanup]

pretty much straight line logarithmic growth

I would say your graph illustrates goldilocks growth. How would you have the line drawn differently? Flat line? That's hardly an economy that's growing.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Poor Andy still doesn't understand that MZM can grow without the Fed doing a thing.

[AndyJackson]

Poor Todd doesn’t understand central banking.

[Toddsterpatriot]

I just borrowed $1 billion and increased MZM by $1 billion. And the Fed wasn't even involved. LOL!

[AndyJackson]

I would say your graph illustrates goldilocks growth

Yes. You are right. It illustrates fairy-tale growth. Of course someone as smart as you keep telling us you are very well knows the difference between monetary growth with economic growth, and what the chart illustrates is only monetary growth.

Here is an interesting table comparing YOY monetary growth in various countries. Funny that Switzerland has very little monetary growth, but maintains a very very productive economy, wheras we put ourselves in the ranks of the socialists and communists. Source

GLOBAL MONEY SUPPLY
as of 10/04/07 Country	YOY %
Russian Fed. M2	43.71
India M3	20.15
China M2	17.06
Australia M3	16.64
Denmark M3	14.53
UK M4	13.06
Mexico M4	12.69
Brazil M2	12.37
Korea M3	9.97
OECD Total M3	8.22
Canada M3	8.15
United States, M3 reconstructed	15.07
Germany M3	6.16
Japan M4	4.22
France M3	2.72
Spain M2	1.98
Switzerland M3	0.95

[AndyJackson]

I just borrowed $1 billion and increased MZM by $1 billion. And the Fed wasn't even involved. LOL!

But you didn't. LOL!

[AndyJackson]

Not only did you not just borrow $1B, but if you had it would not have increased the money supply. The total volume of loans outstanding would be some multiple (say 10) of the reserves on hand. By writing out a check for $1B your bank expanded another banks cash on hand by $1B but contracted it's own cash on hand by $1B. There is no new money in the system, and overall loans cannot increase. New lending is only possible with new net reserves in the system and the FED creates those.

The total volume of bank loans could only increase by the FED intentioanlly injecting more cash into the system. It can do this in a few ways. One, it can by a treasury, effectively giving the treasury money to spend, which when spent ends up in the banking system. Second, it could purchase a security, say a CDO containing your loan as part of the bundle. In other words, the FED has by this action monetized what is normally a debt instrument.

Of course none of this counts truly private debt - you sell me your house and take my private bond in exchange. In an ideal world we could create all the paper money we wanted in this fashion. In reality we cannot because the IRS is going to come looking for taxes both on the sale of the house and on the interest on the mortgage that is generated, and that requires that the debt instrument become monetized in some fashion. It becomes MZM if and when the FED agrees to purchase it, or a CDO containing it, for newly created cash money. It is no secret that the FED has started to do that.

[groanup]

Your table is meaningless. Of course ex communist countries that are suddenly capitalists are going to experience explosive growth. China and India are blasting off... finally.

Switzerland is a borderline socialist state. You like that? And, BTW, what statistics do you have that shows Switzerlad as a very productive economy. As far as I can tell, it hasn't come close to the type of GDP growth that we have in recent years.

I think I'm debating with one who would rather see economic growth stifled.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not only did you not just borrow $1B, but if you had it would not have increased the money supply.

Yes, Andy, my borrowing of $1B most definitely increased the money supply.

The total volume of loans outstanding would be some multiple (say 10) of the reserves on hand.

You got one right!

By writing out a check for $1B your bank expanded another banks cash on hand by $1B but contracted it's own cash on hand by $1B.

Cash on hand? What are you talking about? You don't think that MZM is cash on hand, do you?

There is no new money in the system,

The $1B loan was deposited in my account. The money supply grew by $1 billion.

The total volume of bank loans could only increase by the FED intentioanlly injecting more cash into the system.

You're wrong.

It can do this in a few ways. One, it can by a treasury, effectively giving the treasury money to spend, which when spent ends up in the banking system.

The Fed doesn't buy Treasuries from the Treasury.

[AndyJackson]

Your table is meaningless.

Thank you for proving a.) that you don't get around the world much, and b.) that you yourself are an idiot. Switzerland has always been and remains today one of the world's most advanced industrial countries. They have a far more educated population on average than our (hate to wound your ignorant patriotic price) and are very technically sophisctated. ETH (you have heard of it - Einstein was there for a number of years, for instance) is one of the world's premier research universities).

There are a couple of other not so minor idiocies in your claims as well. First, the US economy has been growing at best at 4% per year (relying on USG inflation corrected statistics), with some years a lot less, and currently it is running close to zero. Monetary growth above GDP growth is inflation, so that would suggest that even with the BLS corrected inflation numbers in GDP monetary growth has been outstripping GDP by 11% per year. Now that kind of monetary growth for many years suggests that the BLS adjusted inflation numbers are much lower than reality, which accords with the experience of most of us who actually buy things in the economy.

The problems in BLS inflation correction we could go into, but that is probably too deep for a feeble mind that does not even know that per capita the US is not the wealthiest country in the world anymore, even excepting the bizarre case of Luxembourg.

Since you seem to think that thing are so much better in the US than anywhere else in the world, here is another meaningless useless table for you to ponder Source

	2005	2006
Luxembourg	68810	76040
Norway	60890	66530
Switzerland	55320	57230
Denmark	48330	51700
Iceland	48570	50580
Ireland	41140	45580
United States	43560	44970
Sweden	40910	43580
Netherlands	39340	42670
Finland	37530	40650
United Kingdom	37750	40180
Austria	37190	39590
Belgium	36140	38600
Japan	38950	38410
High income: OECD	36506	38120
Germany	34870	36620
France	34600	36550
High income	34962	36487
Canada	32590	36170
Australia	33120	35990
European Monetary Union	32101	34149
Italy	30250	32020
Singapore	26620	29320
Hong Kong, China	27690	28460
Spain	25250	27570
New Zealand	25920	27250
Greece	19840	21690
Slovenia	17430	18890
Portugal	17190	18100
Korea, Rep.	15880	17690
Trinidad and Tobago	10870	13340
Czech Republic	11150	12680
Estonia	9530	11410
Antigua and Barbuda	10700	11210
Hungary	10210	10950
Slovak Republic	8100	9870
Croatia	8350	9330
St. Kitts and Nevis	8250	8840
Seychelles	8390	8650
Equatorial Guinea	5410	8250
Poland	7150	8190
Latvia	6760	8100
Palau	7670	7990
Mexico	7300	7870
Lithuania	6910	7870
World	7016	7439
Libya	5930	7380
Chile	6040	6980
Venezuela, RB	4940	6070
Upper middle income	5053	5913
Botswana	5530	5900
Russian Federation	4470	5780
Lebanon	5510	5490
Malaysia	4970	5490
Mauritius	5250	5450
Turkey	4750	5400
South Africa	4820	5390
Uruguay	4560	5310
Argentina	4460	5150
St. Lucia	4920	5110
Gabon	4390	5000
Costa Rica	4660	4980
Panama	4640	4890
Romania	3830	4850
Europe & Central Asia	3968	4796
Latin America & Caribbean	4157	4767
Brazil	3890	4730
Grenada	4120	4420
Bulgaria	3510	3990
Dominica	3840	3960
St. Vincent & the Grenadines	3530	3930
Serbia	3490	3910
Montenegro	3310	3860
Kazakhstan	2940	3790
Belize	3570	3650
Jamaica	3420	3480
Belarus	2760	3380
Fiji	3170	3300
Namibia	2960	3230
Suriname	2540	3200
Macedonia, FYR	2830	3060
Middle income	2636	3051
Algeria	2720	3030
Marshall Islands	2930	3000
Iran, Islamic Rep.	2600	3000
Thailand	2720	2990
Bosnia and Herzegovina	2680	2980
Tunisia	2880	2970
Albania	2580	2960
Peru	2640	2920
Dominican Republic	2300	2850
..
Zimbabwe	340	..
Source: World Bank Development Indicators 2007

[AndyJackson]

I think I'm debating with one who would rather see economic growth stifled.

It is you who thinks that loose monetary policy is a necessary component for economic growth. I stand with the Austrians in claiming that the exact oposite is the case, and that excessive monetary growth lead to malinvestment. Our real estate debacle is proof enough of that.

Further, there is plenty of evidence around the world that economic growth is possible while maintaining stable monetary values. In fact, we became the world's leading economic power while being on the gold standard.

And as the FED monitizes that Real estate debt that went into inflating real estate values it is returning to the case economy where we are seeing soaring escalations in commodities prices, which leads inevitably to soaring downstream production prices.

[groanup]

Since you seem to think that thing are so much better in the US than anywhere else in the world, here is another meaningless useless table for you to ponder Source

Well that sure is meaningless since you failed to identify it as PPI.

Wow, six tiny European countries have a higher PPI than the vast United States. So what?

Switzerland has always been and remains today one of the world's most advanced industrial countries.

Then why does it have an unemployment rate higher than Cuba?

Hint: see how easy it is to use charts?

Source

[groanup]

I stand with the Austrians in claiming that the exact oposite is the case

Yes, you would choke off all economic development just in case there might be inflation.

Woe unto us if such policies were adopted. Go to Austria and live. Delta is ready when you are.

I like the job the Fed has been doing. Most people do, because if your stocks aren't growing more rapidly than inflation you're in a heap of trouble: