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#UCK THE TROOPS (Mega Barf)
http://www.buffalobeast.com/ ^ | 04/24/08 | Ian Murphy

Posted on 04/27/2008 6:08:04 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So

So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo #ucking hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.

Likely, just reading the above paragraph made you uncomfortable. But why?

The benevolence of America’s “troops” is sacrosanct. Questioning their rectitude simply isn’t done. It’s the forbidden zone. We may rail against this tragic war, but our soldiers are lauded by all as saints. Why? They volunteered to partake in this savage idiocy, and for this they deserve our utmost respect? I think not.

The nearly two-thirds of us who know this war is bullshit need to stop sucking off the troops. They get enough action raping female soldiers and sodomizing Iraqi detainees. The political left is intent on “supporting” the troops by bringing them home, which is a good thing. But after rightly denouncing the administration’s lies and condemning this awful war, relatively sensible pundits—like Keith Olbermann—turn around and lovingly praise the soldiers’ brave service to the country. Why?

What service are they providing? I don’t remember ordering 300,000 dead Iraqis—although I was doing a lot of heavy narcotics back in ‘03. Our soldiers are not providing a service to the country, they’re providing a service to a criminal administration and their oil company cronies. When a mafia don orders a hit, is the assassin absolved of personal responsibility when it’s carried out? Of course not. What if the hit man was fooled into service? We’d all say, “Tough shit, you dumb Guido,” then lock him up and throw away the key.

As a society, we need to discard our blind deference to military service. There’s nothing admirable about volunteering to murder people. There’s nothing admirable about being rooked by obvious propaganda. There’s nothing admirable about doing what you’re told if what you’re told to do is terrible.

We all learned recently that the Bush administration instituted its policy of global torture during quaint White House meetings. And we already know this war was started with lies. Shame on them. But what about the people who physically carry out these atrocities? We’ve seen bad apples punished and CEO despots walk free, but all verbal and written denouncement is focused on our leaders. Surely, they deserve that and more—decapitation, really. But why can’t we be critical of the people who have actually tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens? We deride private contractors like Blackwater for similar conduct—why are the troops blameless?

Take John McCain, or “McNasty,” as they called him in high school. While the conventional wisdom says that Obama gets a pass from the media, McCain is clearly the least scrutinized presidential candidate. He diddles lobbyists, sings about bombing Iran and doesn’t know Shiite from Shinola, yet he remains unscathed, cloaked in his Vietnam “hero” legend.

Again, what is heroic about involving one’s self in a foolish war, being a shitty pilot or getting tortured? Yeah, it must have sucked, but getting your ass kicked every day for five years doesn’t make you a hero—it makes you a Bad News Bear.

Here’s where America’s military lust becomes a true perversion. If we truly valued military prowess, John McCain would be viewed as a failure. But duty alone is enough to inspire our gratitude. Hence the left’s tendency to obligatorily praise the troops while decrying the sum of their actions. Good thing, too, because this war is unwinnable.

George Washington warned that the biggest threat to the young United States was in keeping and deploying standing armies. An overextended military is a drain on any nation—eventually it will break. It also pisses off the people your army is standing on. We’ll never heed this warning and break the cycle of violence, so long as military service is so reflexively praised.

People want to be respected. And in a country with an abysmal education system and disappearing economic opportunities, they seek respect wherever they can find it—as street corner toughs or as government-sanctioned thugs. It beats McDonald’s. But this kind of victim-of-circumstance-sympathy for the troops turns them into automatons, neither deserving of praise or damnation. Disregarding the Stop Loss back door draft travesty, they had a choice.

We’re a squeamish people; we eschew heated debates and, in principle, strive for political correctness when arguing with those who hold contrary views. The left does anyway; the right makes no such pretense. That’s one of the reasons liberals have taken such a beating in the last few decades.

As plainly stupid as religious belief or participating in immoral and illegal wars may be, the castrated left can only argue against these things by appealing to reason. In America, that fails every time. We respond best to partisan venom and ad hominem attacks.

The right has no problem painting their opponents as cowards or godless heathens, but liberals—instead of sticking to the merits of their arguments—fight those accusations by leaning right, praising god and guns, and pandering to the people who cling to them. The left has taken to appeasing bullies as their only course to victory. And that’s no victory at all.

Liberals need to start calling a moron a moron—and openly mocking that moron if his positions or actions are indefensible. Just as Limbaugh or Hannity insults the left, tilting the battlefield so liberals are left scrounging for their patriotic bona fides, the left must begin attacking stupidity whether in the form of religious nonsense, “free market” capitalism or military worship.

Instead of blowing the troops every chance we get, to prove our patriotism and insulate ourselves against attacks from the right, liberals should grow a pair and start dishing the damnation.

How despicable must a military campaign be before Americans turn on their beloved troops? After chiding the “War on Toddlers” as fool-headed and pointlessly barbaric, would Keith Olbermann still thank the troops for their service? After the “Great Grandmother Slaughter of 2010,” will the press remove the fat military cock from its mouth? Following “Operation Murder Fluffy Kittens,” will the left finally nix the “honored service” crap? No. No, they won’t.

Condemning the “troops”—a term coined during the Gulf War—is almost unthinkable. And it won’t win you any awards. “Troops” are a monolithic entity, a cohesive group of pride-inspiring order-takers. Whereas an individual soldier is accountable for his or her actions, the “troops” are too abstract to blame. For Americans, there are only bad apples, never bad orchards.

But what kind of world would we rather live in: one where fools are admired for being fooled and murderers are extolled for murdering, or one where we have the capacity to step back and say, “I don’t care who told you to do what and why; you’re still an asshole!” Personally, I’d rather live in a world where people who act like retards are treated like retards: executed in Texas.

Americans fear the truth. It’s the slipperiest slope of all. Once we start extending responsibility beyond those who gave orders to those who took them, it won’t be long before we’re blaming ourselves. And we can’t have that.

Well, guess what, kids? The Iraq debacle is a pointless bloodbath—and every time you applaud those who “bravely” fill that tub, you’re soaking in it.


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1 posted on 04/27/2008 6:08:05 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

I vote we remove this POS’s US citizenship and deport him to the Communist hell hole of his choice.


2 posted on 04/27/2008 6:10:47 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

So what’s Ian Murphy’s handle over at DU?


3 posted on 04/27/2008 6:10:59 PM PDT by labette
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
although I was doing a lot of heavy narcotics back in ‘03.

This pretty much says it all.

4 posted on 04/27/2008 6:11:29 PM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
although I was doing a lot of heavy narcotics back in ‘03

I suspected this...

5 posted on 04/27/2008 6:12:12 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (This is an Obama-nation!)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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6 posted on 04/27/2008 6:12:19 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
Why are liberals always so bitter???

As for this author - he needs to spend 5 years living in a islamic society. When (if) he comes back to the west, he will without any prodding worship the freedoms these soldiers work so hard to defend...

7 posted on 04/27/2008 6:12:53 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Hippies were contained when it was kosher to kick their ass when they got out of hand.

The litigious society we’ve become has emboldened them.


8 posted on 04/27/2008 6:13:17 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Carbon is the fifth most abundant element on the planet.)
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To: labette
So what’s Ian Murphy’s handle over at DU?

Fudgepacker I'm guessing.

9 posted on 04/27/2008 6:13:42 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

“There’s nothing admirable about doing what you’re told if what you’re told to do is terrible.”

Has this guy never worked before?


10 posted on 04/27/2008 6:13:47 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Could I have a minute alone with “Mr.” Murphy?


11 posted on 04/27/2008 6:14:27 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
Liberals never, ever, learn from past errors.

Back in the 60's they basically made themselves irrelevant from this sort of crap. Any message they had about ending the war was lost in the noise of "baby killer" and spitting on returning soldiers. Nobody would listen to them no matter what they said after that.

The older generation of liberals recognized during the late 70's that they had royally, royally, screwed up their movement with this kind of crap. But the young and dumb think they can hate "peace" into existence.

Thousands and thousands who hear this crap and who are feeling edgy about the war turn back because they don't want to be like these jackasses and don't want to be thought of as the same as these jackasses.

Hate in the name of peace. Didn't work then...won't work now...will never work. I bet this guy is too dumb to learn that later in his life like his forbears.
12 posted on 04/27/2008 6:15:21 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: rightwinggoth

Of course not, he sits on his *ss and siphons off the taxpayers.


13 posted on 04/27/2008 6:16:29 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Just a guess, but I’m willing to bet we’ll see little commie Ian in Denver this summer crying like a baby after getting a large dose of pepper spray and smacked with a baton back into reality. No justice- no peace! Let the games begin.


14 posted on 04/27/2008 6:16:58 PM PDT by TADSLOS (John McCain never met a liberal he wasn't eager to apologize to.)
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To: darkangel82

Ian is damn lucky he’s far, far away from me.


15 posted on 04/27/2008 6:17:17 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
"I don’t remember ordering 300,000 dead Iraqis—although I was doing a lot of heavy narcotics back in ‘03."

My head was about to explode but that particular phrase helped me put this A$$holes opinion in perspective.

How do jerk offs such as this find themselves with an audience at all?

16 posted on 04/27/2008 6:17:29 PM PDT by Radix (Sometimes a post is just a post.)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

What’s his DUmp name?


17 posted on 04/27/2008 6:17:47 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: ought-six

Me too, but isn’t there a lot of military in upstate NY?


18 posted on 04/27/2008 6:18:15 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

I saw a pic of his ugly mug. He looks like a white suburban wannabe tough guy who’d get his ass kicked in less than a round.


19 posted on 04/27/2008 6:18:28 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

This is the opinion of the majority of the American Sheep.


20 posted on 04/27/2008 6:19:07 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: labette
I highly doubt "Ian Murphy" is the author's real name. It might well be the name of someone he has a grudge against, for all we know.
21 posted on 04/27/2008 6:19:18 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Squantos; archy; Noumenon
It'd be a lot of fun to look Mr. Murphy up and share our opinion of his opinion up close and personal.

Doom on him and all who walk with him....

L

22 posted on 04/27/2008 6:19:41 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Darren McCarty

That’s what I am thinking too.


23 posted on 04/27/2008 6:19:52 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Just a liberal stating their true feelings, unlike those phonies who say they support the troops but condemn the war.


24 posted on 04/27/2008 6:20:44 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
this is exactly the kind of garbage that the Weathermen and other subversive organizations of the 60’s and 70’s put out.

Isn't there anyone else on FR who remembers, or are they all a bunch of young whippersnappers??

25 posted on 04/27/2008 6:20:45 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Darren McCarty

If you can find the photo, please post it.


26 posted on 04/27/2008 6:21:14 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Squantos; archy; Noumenon
It'd be a lot of fun to look Mr. Murphy up and share our opinion of his opinion up close and personal.

Doom on him and all who walk with him....

BTW, Mr Murphy apparently lives in Buffalo NY. L

27 posted on 04/27/2008 6:21:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

I got no farther than the word ‘rube’ before I dismissed this guy out of hand.

Our armed forces are not made up of country hicks. This the the most well educated fighting force our nation has fielded. These folks weren’t out standing behind a mule three weeks before being inducted into the service. Many of them have degrees, or entered the military to be able to earn one after their service is completed. They are not stupid, or easily duped.

There’s another point that strikes me as being pertinant. I don’t think I’m the only one who has herd the term ‘rube’ used in a racist connotation. As it was used above, it makes me ponder if a secondary point this writer wanted to make without outright saying it, was that these folks are carrying water for the evil Joooos.

This guy is a nut-job.


28 posted on 04/27/2008 6:21:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is a poison pill. Accept it! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006492/posts)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
although I was doing a lot of heavy narcotics back in ‘03.

author said it all with brief history of himself.

29 posted on 04/27/2008 6:22:57 PM PDT by piroque
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To: Arkinsaw

It seems odd that they charge those who defend our nation as being ‘baby killers’, but they hold abortionists in such high esteem.


30 posted on 04/27/2008 6:24:16 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: TADSLOS

It’s simply time to revoke his first amendment privileges. He obviously doesn’t value the 1st amendment enough to support those that protect it for him.

And the pepper spray.


31 posted on 04/27/2008 6:24:20 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: wideawake

32 posted on 04/27/2008 6:24:24 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Another angry, bitter liberal. They are so common these days.


33 posted on 04/27/2008 6:26:24 PM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: wideawake
Here is his pic


34 posted on 04/27/2008 6:26:51 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (I can't wait for baseball season to start. Go Braves!)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Typical Marxist university programmed tool. There are hundreds of thousands of college students who undergo this indoctrnation each year, from Obama type communist professor friends.

Most successfully resist the indoctrination. The weaker brains become democrats. A few dim bulbs like this monster drink the full Kool-Aid dose, rotting their brains into permanent dementia.


35 posted on 04/27/2008 6:26:52 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: dfwddr

No...I want to teach him some manners as well.


36 posted on 04/27/2008 6:27:27 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: 2banana
Why are liberals always so bitter???

""You go into these large cities in the Northeast and, like a lot of large cities in the Northeast, common sense and patriotism has been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced love of country. And they've been brain dead through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these brain dead are gonna regenerate brain cells and they have not."

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to government or narcotics or antipathy to God fearing people who aren't like them or anti-military sentiment or anti-American sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

37 posted on 04/27/2008 6:28:58 PM PDT by A message
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Get in on the fun.


38 posted on 04/27/2008 6:29:47 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (I can't wait for baseball season to start. Go Braves!)
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To: darkangel82

This has to part of the Rovian Plan to paint the Democrats as America-hating, Christian-bashing, Troop-despising far left creeps. It can’t be real.


39 posted on 04/27/2008 6:29:47 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (I'm just a typical bitter, white, heteronormative space worm clinging to guns and God.)
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To: A message

Homosexual. They’re obsessed with sex, and hate themselves, thus have to lash out at others. I’ll bet $10 he’s gay.


40 posted on 04/27/2008 6:31:18 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
Yo, Ian, I''ll remember these sentiments - and you, you drug-addled shitpile - if we're ever in the same room (or even state) together. Sleep soundly. For now.


41 posted on 04/27/2008 6:32:34 PM PDT by Viking2002 (I hope the AG pounds the Mann Act up Spitzer's ass with a sharp stick.)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
UPDATE at 4/27/08 4:55:26 pm:

Beware! Just received from a reader:

Your “4000 rubes guy” is also distributing security compromising viruses. I just clicked on his donation link to see where it led, and Kaspersky on my computer sounded and set off a warning and blocked the HTML warning that it contained “Trojan-Spy.HTML.fraud.gen”.

Nature of the virus is on this site: Viruslist.com - Trojan-Spy.HTML.Fraud.gen.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/29757_So_4000_Rubes_Are_Dead
42 posted on 04/27/2008 6:33:12 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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"Why are liberals always so bitter???"

Because their puny little existence fails.

That's why they need the government to cover for their inability to lead productive lives.

I would trade 4 million of this "man's" drug addled kind to have spared Staff Sgt. Matt Maupin.

43 posted on 04/27/2008 6:34:00 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Is the purpose of the 2nd amendment to brag at gun shows and chat rooms?)
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To: Big Giant Head
They’re obsessed with sex, and hate themselves, thus have to lash out at others.

No chance I'll take that bet because you're likely 100% spot on.

44 posted on 04/27/2008 6:34:49 PM PDT by A message
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To: wideawake
From the website:



Real tough guy...
45 posted on 04/27/2008 6:35:25 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: RWB Patriot

If you just want to teach him manners, then you go first.

That’ll make my “discussion” easier.


46 posted on 04/27/2008 6:35:54 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

Hasn’t he noticed that Bin Ladin’s called nothing off??


47 posted on 04/27/2008 6:36:18 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Ptarmigan

Thanks for the warning. Just like this (expletive deleted) to spread viruses.


48 posted on 04/27/2008 6:36:33 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Lurker

Mr. Murphy has certainly made any number of lists of People to See. He’s on mine, but he’s a little out of my range.


49 posted on 04/27/2008 6:37:39 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only thing that prevents liberals from loading us all into cattle cars is the power to do it)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Nope, this is how they really are.


50 posted on 04/27/2008 6:39:17 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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