[Just A Nobody]

Did not bother to read past this:
let us consider in detail one of the most important of these arguments: that no one has offered any clear definition of success in Iraq.

Brain dead morons!!!

President Bush has defined success in Iraq for years!

The simple explanation:
1. When Iraq can GOVERN itself
2. When Iraq can SUSTAIN itself
3. When Iraq can DEFEND itself
Our Troops will come home with the honor they deserve!

[Just A Nobody]

The long version:

National Strategy for Victory in Iraq, November 30, 2005

Iraq Strategy Review, January 2007

President Bush has talked and talked and talked about Iraq, from Feb. 16, 2001 thru Apr. 12, 2008. Every word can be found here.

[Tolik]

I hope your argument is not with Fred Kagan, because the phrase you are quoting is not his opinion, but what the opponents of the war are saying, it is their argument he lists here and then proceeds to deconstruct in this article, very methodically and thorough.

[okie01]

The simple explanation:
1. When Iraq can GOVERN itself
2. When Iraq can SUSTAIN itself
3. When Iraq can DEFEND itself
Our Troops will come home with the honor they deserve!

Errrr...if you'd read the article, you'd realize that's what Kagan was arguing.

Pssssst! He's on your side.