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High gas prices prompt call for 4-day work week (Four 10's)
KING 5 TV (Seattle) | 4/28/08 | ERIC WILKINSON

Posted on 04/28/2008 12:56:23 PM PDT by llevrok

SEATTLE - Mike Cummings believes that for more and more of us, our sentence is "commuting."

Working four days instead of five would mean 20 percent fewer trips to and from work, reducing oil consumption by an estimated 40 percent.

"When I came here I looked at the traffic on I-5 and thought to myself, 'Everybody who does that is out of their mind' and then I ended up being one of them," he said.

So now Mike, a sheet metal contractor, has enlisted in a growing movement to change the way America does business.

Whenever possible he and his men work four-day weeks - 10 hour shifts - as a way to cut costs, reduce pollution and congestion.

"It would be astronomical what states, the federal government and the nation and the world could save on energy consumption, pollution traffic congestion and everything else," he said.

Whenever possible, Mike Cummings and his men work four-day weeks as a way to cut costs, reduce pollution and congestion.

The idea isn't new one. The oil crisis of the 1970s prompted some employers to switch to a four-day work week, but the idea never took hold nationally.

These days, though, energy and congestion issues may give the concept more traction. Several petition drives for a shortened work week are now circulating on the Internet.

A handful of cities in Nevada, California and Arizona are experimenting with the idea.

The state of West Virginia is considering a four-day week for government workers there.

Working four days instead of five would mean 20 percent fewer trips to and from work, reducing gasoline consumption by an estimated 65 million gallons per day, not to mention more time with family, and for Mike Cummings, a bit more hope for the future.

"I think this would help with a lot of the planet's problems, I think it would help with our oil problems and give them a little better life," he said.

Marion County Florida recently switched to a four-day work week for county workers. They expect to save $250,000 in energy costs this year alone.


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Four days? That would be 1 more a week than I really work now! Pffft.
1 posted on 04/28/2008 12:56:23 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

What if you already work 5 “tens”?


2 posted on 04/28/2008 12:58:56 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (It's truly bad when your Savior in November is Judas Himself.)
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To: llevrok

Sign me up, I already work close to 10 hour days. I’ll take the freebie. ;)


3 posted on 04/28/2008 12:59:04 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: llevrok

Four tens would be great. Problem is some kinds of jobs it isn’t practical.


4 posted on 04/28/2008 12:59:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: llevrok
I work zero days per week. Think of all the fuel I'm saving!
5 posted on 04/28/2008 1:00:10 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: llevrok

Old school Bosses will never go for that. Crap I work 10 hrs 5 times a week sometimes 6.


6 posted on 04/28/2008 1:00:16 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: llevrok

Telecommuting is a better option.


7 posted on 04/28/2008 1:01:17 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: Sybeck1

Most people I know are already working 5 Tens. It’s expected. Cutting the work week doesn’t lessen the amount of work that needs to be done. Still it’s one possible solution. They’d probably expect you to telecommute on the fifth day.


8 posted on 04/28/2008 1:01:21 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Graybeard58

You’re a green dream, Gray.


9 posted on 04/28/2008 1:01:34 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Sybeck1

Right. A company in my industry is known for its four-day work schedule, but nobody else in the industry wants to implement it because the senior people in that company always end up working five days anyway.


10 posted on 04/28/2008 1:02:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: llevrok

I used to work four 10s. Now I work four 11 or 12s. I love it! I’d rather work four 12 hour days than five 8 hour days. Three day weekends every week are awesome!


11 posted on 04/28/2008 1:03:47 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Slapshot68

Well, as a soldier, my typical duty day lasts for about 10.5 hours. And I commute via a five-minute walk. Although if you take out personal hygiene and lunch time, that’s only 8 hours. But it was 9 hours today.


12 posted on 04/28/2008 1:04:58 PM PDT by tlj18 (Governor Sarah Palin for Vice President!)
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To: Graybeard58

And we thank you for contributing...


13 posted on 04/28/2008 1:06:28 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Alberta's Child
I worked a 4-10 schedule during the Carter misadministration. We were off Friday through Sunday. With a Monday holiday we all on the road to somewhere. Who just sits at home with a 3 to 4 day weekend? I doubt total gas used was any less overall.
14 posted on 04/28/2008 1:06:44 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: llevrok

The math is off a bit, but since so many take advantage of non-work days to drive to the mall anyway, the net saving would be zero or even worse.


15 posted on 04/28/2008 1:07:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: BenLurkin
Problem is some kinds of jobs it isn’t practical.

Maybe not so much now but as more and more businesses become 7 day a week operations, 4 day work weeks could become practical.

16 posted on 04/28/2008 1:08:10 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: llevrok

“Working four days instead of five would mean 20 percent fewer trips to and from work, reducing oil consumption by an estimated 40 percent.”

Advanced math required?


17 posted on 04/28/2008 1:08:33 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: llevrok

Gee this would give us an extra day to drive to the Golf Course or some other recreational pursuit which would undoubtedly nullify any energy saving by not working 5 days a week


18 posted on 04/28/2008 1:09:03 PM PDT by Pardeeville Liberator
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To: Drew68

That’s great! Then there’ll be three days that I can drive to golf courses that aren’t on my way to work.


19 posted on 04/28/2008 1:09:21 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: llevrok
Working four days instead of five would mean 20 percent fewer trips to and from work, reducing oil consumption by an estimated 40 percent

Is this Journalism math or something? Besides, the end consumers in the US do not consume the bulk of the petrtoleum. That would be the truckers.

20 posted on 04/28/2008 1:10:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: llevrok

Yeah! Next thing you know, we could start requiring employers to give six weeks of paid vacation a year. Then we could call ourselves “Germany.”


21 posted on 04/28/2008 1:11:35 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Pardeeville Liberator

18 seconds? Queue up the twightlite Zone.


22 posted on 04/28/2008 1:12:00 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: llevrok
I could hang with this.

Wednesday would be "Golf Day."

23 posted on 04/28/2008 1:12:51 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: llevrok

Years ago, I worked 3 12’s. Graveyard on the weekends.

It was a bbuster. But Monday, at noon, I got off and didn’t have to go back till midnight Friday.

It was GREAT during the summer!


24 posted on 04/28/2008 1:13:07 PM PDT by djf
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To: llevrok

I did the four (4) tens back in the late 70’s, early 80’s and the only thing that was accomplished was being able to go to the bar and drink all day Friday, rather than waiting til 5 o’clock. Actually spent more money with that extra day off.


25 posted on 04/28/2008 1:13:17 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: Sybeck1
What if you already work 5 “tens”?

Me too, I dream of only working a 40 hour week.

26 posted on 04/28/2008 1:15:18 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: llevrok

Well, most people don’t.

I’ve been suggesting this (here on FR) for quite some time.

We also need more innovative mass transit. I read, in a comfortable seat, until my stop is announced, then walk no more than 3 city blocks to my destination. Rest, relaxation, mild exercise, saves money, gives less to OPEC.


27 posted on 04/28/2008 1:19:19 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: llevrok

I was working 6X12 when I crashed, and landed in the ER.


28 posted on 04/28/2008 1:19:30 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: llevrok

Dispatcher: “Seattle Fire Deparment”

Caller: “My house is on fire!”

Dispatcher: “I’m sorry but you’ll have to call back tomorrow. All of the firemen have Fridays off”


29 posted on 04/28/2008 1:19:59 PM PDT by technically right
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To: llevrok
Working four days instead of five would mean 20 percent fewer trips to and from work, reducing oil consumption by an estimated 40 percent.

A 20% decrease in driving results in a 40% reduction?

Obviously this reporter has a Publik Skul ejamukashun.

30 posted on 04/28/2008 1:20:10 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Centurion2000
GMTA -- see my #17.

IIRC, the same "solution" was proposed during the Carter "Energy Crisis". According to some "studies", a shorter work week would actually result in more oil being used. The reason being a short work week = a long weekend, & people travel further on long weekends -- maybe a lot further.
31 posted on 04/28/2008 1:22:28 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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I use to work 4 10s but we all went somewhere on the weekends that we wouldn't normally go on a 2 day weekend, not every weekend but on a quite a few. We didn't drive less and probably drove more than we did on 8 hour, 5 day weeks.

I know, why don't we just chain up the average working man and woman to their jobs 24-7, that way they wouldn't have to drive at all, we could put their paychecks in an account for them and turn them loose when they were 65 and hand over their trust accounts, minus room, board and special government work taxes!/SAR

32 posted on 04/28/2008 1:23:08 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Sybeck1

or 6 for the past 4 months...!


33 posted on 04/28/2008 1:26:31 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Centurion2000

Journalist Math or Liberal Math - basically coming up with the same unrealist static results. They never take into consideration the dynamics of changes like this. I’m like others here, I’d use the extra day off to go somewhere that would consume more gas. As it is, I’m looking into telecommuting and just salivating on where I can use that saved gas when I’m done for the day.


34 posted on 04/28/2008 1:31:10 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Praise God and pass the ammunition!)
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To: llevrok
Imagine the good a three day work week would do. As production went down fewer hours of work would be needed and thus a two day week might be feasible. With holidays, vacations, personal days, and sick days the work week could be reduced to one day and since nothing gets done on Mondays anyway skip that one day.
Think of the fuel saved, the pollution avoided, the lives saved, the thumb in the eye to OPEC!
35 posted on 04/28/2008 1:36:59 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: uglybiker

A girl her changed her hours to miss traffic and she is saving a lot more gas.


36 posted on 04/28/2008 1:37:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: llevrok

Yup, and since they would have a 3-day weekend they could drive 400 miles for camping, skiing, etc, and use even more gas!!

Brilliant!


37 posted on 04/28/2008 1:39:31 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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To: Tamar1973
Telecommuting is a better option.

Says it all!

As tens of millions in all of the cities commute in bumper to bumper traffic, just to get to their cubicles to sit and use a computer and keyboard.... When they could do this at home!!

Can anyone imagine what this would do for fuel prices, not to mention how this would piss off the A-rabs and others that are making a fortune selling fuel?

38 posted on 04/28/2008 1:39:45 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: usurper

I hear you. Its a slow week if I’m only working 16 hour days 6-7 days a week. Only 3 and a half more years until I’m a civilian again and can dream of 40 hour weeks.


39 posted on 04/28/2008 1:43:32 PM PDT by Hoosiersailor
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To: llevrok

Does this guy actually think that nobody else has ever thought of this ? ALL the contractors I know already do this - you’d have to be stupid not to, if you have jobs that are any distance away.


40 posted on 04/28/2008 1:46:36 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Tamar1973
Telecommuting is a better option.

Says it all!

As tens of millions in all of the cities commute in bumper to bumper traffic, just to get to their cubicles to sit and use a computer and keyboard.... When they could do this at home!!

Can anyone imagine what this would do for fuel prices, not to mention how this would piss off the A-rabs and others that are making a fortune selling fuel?

IN ADDITION, this would reduce traffic enormously all across this country. Those that had to use trucks and cars for their jobs would be using much less fuel, and their productivity time would also increase dramatically.

41 posted on 04/28/2008 1:47:35 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: llevrok
Working four days instead of five would mean 20 percent fewer trips to and from work, reducing oil consumption by an estimated 40 percent.

Then why don't we just work 2 days. Because if we save 40% of gas a day, that'd be 120%. That must mean that we'd be exporting gas or something. I just don't follow this guy's math....

And what about weekends? Where I live, lots of people drive on the weekends. And what about the wife? My wife drives the kids around. And school buses? And trucks? And heating oil? And public transportation? And taxis? Somehow, I don't think driving 4 days instead of 5 would lead to an even 20% savings.

42 posted on 04/28/2008 1:47:40 PM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: Graybeard58

If we treat you as the liberals would like, then you actually deserve a gas rebate check!

We’ll call it an economic stimulus incetive.


43 posted on 04/28/2008 1:48:49 PM PDT by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: Sybeck1
“What if you already work 5 “tens”?”

You hit the nail on the head Sybeck1. The fact is that very few Americans now work the traditional ole 8 hr’s/day, 5 days per week schedule. Besides, I have managed compressed work weeks (4 days on, 3 days off, 3 days on, 4 days off, and other variations) and managers and those who possess critical skills find themselves working 7 days per week. Also, those who "are" able to work the compressed work schedule often use the extra days off to go find themselves other work to supplement their income. Others use the time to do do things that require burning gas which is nearly everything. Although I am using a compressed workweek as my example, the same scenarios would apply to the 4/10 workweek. Btw, I am not against this if it makes folks happy. I just don't believe that from a practical point of view there are any savings in this scheme.

44 posted on 04/28/2008 1:51:05 PM PDT by snoringbear (')
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To: uglybiker

Using Nancy P math - like gas was a dollar something??


45 posted on 04/28/2008 1:58:34 PM PDT by Grams A
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Bingo!


46 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:07 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Tamar1973
Telecommuting is a better option.

Says it all!

As tens of millions in all of the cities commute in bumper to bumper traffic, just to get to their cubicles to sit and use a computer and keyboard.... When they could do this at home!!

Can anyone imagine what this would do for fuel prices, not to mention how this would piss off the A-rabs and others that are making a fortune selling fuel?

IN ADDITION, this would reduce traffic enormously all across this country. Those that had to use trucks and cars for their jobs would be using much less fuel, and their productivity time would also increase dramatically. I'll go one step further.

If our government is so concerned about energy, and global warming, the environment etc,...In addition to the middle class is now being hammered by these fuel prices, why would government not mandate that these millions that commute every day just to sit at a computer and use a keyboard, telecommute?

The government could offer tax incentives for every company that sends half or more of it's work force home to work.

We have the technology to do this. The big question is, why is our leadership not demanding this and work with all these companies to make this happen?

Think of the savings for road repairs, fuel costs, commute times, and what this would do to our A-rab enemies.

47 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:15 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Of course, once your boss realizes that somebody can work from home, home can be half a world away.


48 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Sybeck1
Or 5 tens and at least one 5?
49 posted on 04/28/2008 2:04:00 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: llevrok

great idea that way with 4 days I can drive to the beach or to the mountains. I can cruise the chicks. I can go see my mom in florida. I can....use a lot more gas!


50 posted on 04/28/2008 2:08:25 PM PDT by bilhosty
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