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Amid confusion, LDS clarify faith
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 04/28/2008 | Lisa Rosetta

Posted on 04/28/2008 7:31:24 PM PDT by ricks_place

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To: metmom

“I didn’t memorize mine either but I do know what year I signed up in.

So you lurked since about July of 2003 and claim to have knowledge of what happened in 2000-2001.

Curiouser and curiouser....”

Are you part of the pod people too?

You accused me of being in some kind of cult but yet you keep pining all these other people and say wierd things like.....”Curiouser and curiouser....”


121 posted on 04/29/2008 5:49:49 PM PDT by stockpirate (Be a MAVERICK in the GOP , go against the wishes of our nominee John McCain!)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
My only point being that if you want to slam on the Mormon Church, why don't you be an equal opportunity slammer and go after the big one.

Catholic issues have been dealt with on other threads - to do so here would be thread hijacking.

Where did I slam the LDS church ? - I merely stated factual items

you seem to have a habit of reading much into thing eh ?

122 posted on 04/29/2008 6:11:06 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Choose Ye This Day; Antonio C

crickets

Don’t you love people that make idiotic statements then go and hide because they got nothin to back it up.


123 posted on 04/29/2008 8:06:54 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Domandred

I’m not surprised.


124 posted on 04/29/2008 9:09:15 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Obsessive Ex-Mormons: They can leave the Church, but they can't leave it alone.)
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To: Enosh
Catholics don't regard the Pope as a deity. "And about Purgatory?" Please take a number. "pray with Rosary Beads?" A tool to aid memory, nothing more.

Don't you see what you're doing. You offer rationalizations about YOUR religious traditions NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE, yet you spew hate and derision toward another Christian denomination (the Mormons) which essentially does the same thing.

It is a disgusting attitude that doesn't belong in American political discourse, much less against a good Republican like Mitt Romney.

And perhaps you didn't bring up Romney's name, but make no mistake, that is the only reason these anti-Mormon diatribes are taking place on FR.

125 posted on 05/06/2008 4:05:35 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
"... YOUR religious traditions NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE..."

Not found in the Bible in many cases, true. However, Catholic doctrine does not contradict Scripture as Mormon doctrine often does. That's an important point.

"... another Christian denomination (the Mormons)..."

Mormonism is not a Christian denomination.

As far as I recall, the only two Christian groups I'll roast with an occasional joke or sharp comment are the two I stand closest to; Baptists and Catholics.

"... a good Republican like Mitt Romney."

Thanks for the laugh.

126 posted on 05/06/2008 4:22:57 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh
...Catholic doctrine does not contradict Scripture as Mormon doctrine often does. That's an important point.

Where in the Bible can we learn about Purgatory?

Which verse tells us to make prayers to Saints, or to worship St. Mary?

Which verse tells us to eat fish on Friday?

Which scripture tells us that communion is the literal consumption of Christ's ?flesh and blood"???

And while I do not believe in the planet Kebob thing, please tell me where that contradicts scripture????

I mean a specific verse that says life on other planets is a contradiction of God's word.

Like I said, your beliefs are so ingrained in your head that you just take them for literal truth, and woe to them who don't believe them.

Again, not that I believe in the magic clothes thing, but if I recall, the Catholics and the early church thought there to be power in various clothes items and other things associated with the crucifixion.

Priests give last rites with some sort of holy cloth, incense or holy water, don't they??

And Catholics to this day hold various objects and statues out to hold special divine power.

YOU might hold those things to be sacred, while other Christian denominations see them as superfluous jibberish.

Like I said, I am a devout Baptist, and even married a Catholic woman, and helped educate my kids and grandkids partly in the Catholic faith.

I still attend Mass occasionally, as I hold out all Catholics to be my brothers in Christ.

But I certainly don't see myself as the arbitor of all truth, as some people seem to do.

127 posted on 05/06/2008 6:13:13 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Revelation 911
claim God lives on planet kolob

Vatican says its OK to believe in life on other planets.

Maybe the Mormon church has more in common with Catholics than you thought.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90KSE100&show_article=1

128 posted on 05/13/2008 8:20:31 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
Vatican says its OK to believe in life on other planets.

Maybe the Mormon church has more in common with Catholics than you thought.

that comment was made on 4/21, and I consider it unworthy of continued discussion.

Odd, this is the second time to day someone from the same faith group had commented on an old discussion.

Am I wrong to assume it is an effort to bait me into an argument?

oh, btw, Im not Catholic, and I think youll find that the gentleman who made the comment on behalf of the Church will find himself unemployed soon

have a great evening

129 posted on 05/13/2008 8:28:38 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911
Am I wrong to assume it is an effort to bait me into an argument?

Nah. It's just fun to tweak people who think of themselves as the all-knowing arbitor of Biblical and religious truth.

The Bible, in addition to being a blueprint for success and reconciliation with God, is so full of mysteries that it is laughably presumptive to think one knows the meaning of everything in the Bible means.

130 posted on 05/14/2008 4:25:26 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
Nah. It's just fun to tweak people who think of themselves as the all-knowing arbitor of Biblical and religious truth.

LOL - fyi - Im a retired pastor

The Bible, in addition to being a blueprint for success and reconciliation with God, is so full of mysteries that it is laughably presumptive to think one knows the meaning of everything in the Bible means.

yes - absolutely - BUT, the blueprint of our salvation rests there, and there is a duality in its words that allow a simple man to grasp, and an "educated" man to marvel

131 posted on 05/14/2008 5:41:11 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (unwashed gentile swine)
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To: Revelation 911
yes - absolutely - BUT, the blueprint of our salvation rests there, and there is a duality in its words that allow a simple man to grasp, and an "educated" man to marvel.

Exactly. The blueprint of salvation.

Jesus Christ: Crucified, Raised from the dead, a sacrificial lamb God the Father sent as an atonement for my (our) sins.....(of which there are many) ...

....the only hope of redemption for sinners...

Jesus Christ: the atonement for sin and deliverance from guilt.

===========

As a conservative fundamentalist Christian, it irks me to no end when I read FReepers (not you necessarily) who claim to know the REAL truth because their Church does its services this way, or because its members worship this way..... or wear their clothes that way....

... or because their ministers abstain from sex, or because they don't allow dancing or alcohol.... or because they eat meat on Fridays.

You know what I mean.

The absolutely clear message from the Bible is Jesus Christ: a pathway to reconciliation with God Almighty... the gift of eternal life.

Almost all other stuff (not quite all, but close) is just superfluous and, according to scripture, a "stumbling block" to reconciliation with God.

Which is why I don't too worked up over whether someone goes to a Presbyterian, Catholic, Unitarian, Mennonite (as was my father), Baptist, or yes, Mormon church.

The essential thing is a man's personal relationship with Jesus Christ, dontcha think?

132 posted on 05/14/2008 7:22:42 AM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
Which is why I don't too worked up over whether someone goes to a Presbyterian, Catholic, Unitarian, Mennonite (as was my father), Baptist, or yes, Mormon church.

and thats your right I guess.....I'd caution that the body of work in our creeds plays to a fair degree, if merely a profession of faith in the doctrine of the Bible as Christians see it. I think you see a large degree of contentiousness here due largely that a faith group has out stepped those bounds of what "traditional" would characterize itself as, yet remains intent on using the monikker....mormons and unitarians included.

We need to guard our faith and doctrine, remember - the path is narrow

aside, I had opportunity to play a game with a mennonite mentor and friends of mine when I was a free methodist....it was called "mennonite madness"....it was fun fun game - did you by chance ever play it ?

133 posted on 05/14/2008 8:11:37 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (unwashed gentile swine)
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To: Revelation 911
"mennonite madness"....it was fun fun game - did you by chance ever play it ?

No, never heard of it.

My dad was raised in small town Indiana, a product of very conservative group of Swiss/Germans who came to the US around 1906.

Every summer, the family (we live in Pennsylvania) would go to Indiana where we went to the Mennonite church.

It seemed to me, a youngster at the time, very similar in tradition and doctrine to the Baptist church I attended in Penna.

My Indiana relatives also lived side by side with Amish, who were VERY VERY conservative.

134 posted on 05/14/2008 1:37:53 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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