Campaign disses Obama's pastor (what are the odds this is all pure political theater?)

Chicago Tribune ^ | March 6, 2007

[flaglady47]

Posted this elsewhere, fits here too:

There is no record anywhere to be found that Obama was ever baptized into the Christian faith. His children were baptized by Wright, and Wright married him, but Obama himself was not baptized into a Christian Church. All Christians are baptized. Why hasn’t Obama been, I ask you? Because to do so would be against the Muslim religion, in fact some Muslims would have him killed if he switched to Christianity which is a no no. I posted this comment below on another thread:

Something smells rotten in the Hood. Here’s my take on it. I think Obama and Wright are as thick as thieves, I think they are in total cahoots. I think everything that has happened in the past week has been planned and masterminded between Obama and Wright and perhaps one or two other key players on Obama’s campaign staff. I think everything has been coordinated.

Preacher Wright comes out and does his round of inflammatory speeches at the NAACP, and the Nat’l Press Club, and in his Bill Moyers interview. Funny that these three are all clustered within days of each other, all at once. As Obama blew his first chance at refuting Wright for his behavior for the last 20 years, both of them thinking the whole issue would die down, Obama needed a second bite of the apple. A second chance to condemn the Reverend Wright. Hence the setup. Wright does his radical religious/political rap thing three times, and Obama then says he’s finally had enough and condemns and refutes and sort of disowns (however if you listen to Obama’s words, he really doesn’t) Preacher Wright.

Now it looks as if the two of them are at great odds and no longer like each other, right? Wrong, in the sense that this was the desired end result, to make it look like they are now at odds. Mission accomplished. Obama is now off the hook. Obama even makes sure he has an out in the very careful, slow speaking manner with which he refuted his mentor. He says Wright may do more of the same kind of speech, but he, Obama, won’t be responsible for it as he can’t do anything to stop Wright, and has now disowned Wright anyhow. Isn’t this Machiavellian? Isn’t this fun?

Now for the proof of my thinking. Preacher Wright and Obama have known each other for 20 years, both in and out of the church pew. Obama went on Louis Farrakhan’s million man march. Obama named his book after a phrase used by Rev. Wright, “The Audacity of Hope”. They are very close. Obama knows exactly where Wright is coming from, both theologically and politically. And (here’s the kicker) vice versa. Wright knows everything about Obama too. He knows how Obama really thinks politically, after all Preacher Wright groomed him for the last 20 years, or perhaps indoctrinated would be a better word. Wright knows what Obama has said to him over the years, has done for and with him over the last 20 years, and has the goods on Obama big time. Wright could blast Obama into space and out of the presidential race on a politically dirty rocket in a nanosecond. Wright probably knows more about Obama’s inner workings, shady deals back in Chicago, connections to Obama’s political benefactor Tony Rezko now up on influence peddling and other charges back in Chicago, and may have been in on some of those deals himself. Wright could take Obama down faster than greased lightening if he wanted to. But he won’t. Because they are working in tandem. They are still joined at the hip, and what we are seeing this past week is all a charade, a Potemkin village, smokey (until that became un-PC) backroom dealings to get Obama out of hot water in the political short and long run for his relationship with Wright.

Mark my words here; my political antennae are waving in the breeze. And to top it off (I believe this is coming out of Obama’s camp too), the blogs are buzzing around that somehow Preacher Wright and Hillary Clinton are working behind the scenes to undermine Obama, and that Hillary’s camp was somehow involved in setting up financially some of what Wright was up to this past week. I think a whisper campaign of “it’s all Hillary’s fault that this is happening” has been let loose on the internet to shift the blame for Wright’s actions of late on her. How convenient. Obama isn’t behind this, why it’s Hillary. And the MSM are swallowing it whole. The MSM in general hate Hillary and will blame anything and everything on her. They will believe anything about her. Never mind, as I stated before, that Wright/Obama have a 20 year relationship, and that Wright could bring Obama down so fast his head would spin with what Wright knows about Obama and how he really thinks. Its Hillary and her henchmen to blame.

Obama and Wright must be laughing up their sleeves at how a naive and lazy press that is on Obama’s side anyhow in this race, will swallow this. Tell me, does anyone really think that Wright and Hillary got together to “get Obama”? Do you not think that Wright wants Obama in the White House where Wright can have all sorts of influence on his protege? That Wright wants to be kingpin at the National Prayer Breakfasts? That he wants all that access to grants or funding for his church causes? That he wants to push his own peculiar brand of church politics? His Black Liberation Theology? You better believe he wants Obama in as President. They both just have to get over this little speed bump of whether Obama secretly thinks just like Wright does, and is really a divider disguising himself as a uniter, fooling us all. Preacher Wright knows exactly where Obama is coming from. If he blows the whistle on Obama publicly on what he knows, then I am wrong. If Wright doesn’t, well, then draw your own conclusions. I’ve drawn mine.

[river rat]

Wow!
Thanks for the long answer....and for the link to your home page...

Looks like this old man will be up late for several nights reading from the outstanding selection you offer...

Again - thanks, and thanks for being in the forum..
I didn’t know folks like you still exited in Massoftwoshits.
(Named for Kennedy & Kerry)

[Revolting cat!]

I think that the Rev. Wrights statements deserve a big yawn and ridicule, instead of this all too predictable outrage and spilled ink. A big yawn, and an investigation by an enterprising reporter of how come this clown reappeared just now, a week before the critical final primaries. Things that happened behind the scenes, conversations, who said who to whom, would be more interesting than all that hoopla about the gummint inventing AIDS. And as you and I suspect, all this points in one direction, Bubba the Comeback Kid! Arkancide, for sure!

[Jeff Head]

Obama subscribes to Black Liberation Theology, which is an absolute perversion and sacrilig of Christianity. Read bout it. It puts forth the notion that Jesus was a radical black man living under white oppression (the Romans) who was as much about social revolution as he was about salvation. Their teachings of Jesus, IMHO, are actually more akin to what the Islamics teach of Jesus.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY AND OBAMA'S CHURCH

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

[river rat]

Roger that!

I am totally convinced Obama is no Christian.
He is no Christian by any definition recognized by me.
I refuse to accept his “black church” definition of ANYTHING.

Further - there is more evidence by virtue of birth, past actions, past votes, past behavior, friends, mentors, pastor and association with Black Liberation Theology that Obama is more Muslim and America hating than any of that “savior hype” bullsquat created in the Potemkin Village candidate of the Leftists, Islamists and black racists behind him.

Obama is a stinking black Albatross hanging around the neck of the DNC and I hope they gag on the smell and the taste...

[Beckwith]

I didn’t know folks like you still exited in Massoftwoshits

Well, from one old man to another -- I 'exited' to Florida when I retired, but returned in 2005 -- Florida is nice, but not my cup of tea.

[PGalt]

If it is Hillary/Obama, the Dems save their party from self-immolation. The Super Delegates don’t have to choose—that would take political courage, of which they have none. There is peace in our time in Demland. McCain will find himself being broadsided by both of them non-stop. The press, which is in the tank for the Dems anyway, will gear up to do their part. As you say, the dead will rise up and present IDs to vote early and often once the Dems unleash their well honed voter fraud strategies, especially in the inner cities, which they control already.

As long as Hillary is on top this time, she cares not who the VP is. Of all the Dems, Obama is the only running mate that will bring her votes. Obama will be sat down, and made to understand that he will have his shot in eight years; the VP experience will be good for him, and the Dems will never forget his sacrifice to help take back the White House and the levers of government power. He is only 46—he has time, they will say.

Well stated theory. It does seem to be unfolding in a surreal, pre-meditated way. If this plays out it will be the greatest sting operation in the history of America.

[river rat]

Getting back to this......mention of Florida.

For most of Florida, I agree - it’s tough to handle.

While assigned to IBM/Huntsville, AL during the Gemini/ Apollo/Saturn V/Skylab era -— working on the Instrument Unit (IU) for all the launches -— we had to go to Cape Canaveral, on the East coast of Florida to do work.

The ONLY stress free and enjoyable memories of that time, watching the successful launches - especially the one night launch I witnessed and the time we spent in the VIBRANT Cuban communities.

Many years later — my wife’s family retired to the West coast of Florida in the Venice area — and THAT was a wonderful place to live... Lightly populated, beautiful clear water, excellent fishing, homes with their own docks on canals with access to Blackburn Bay and then quickly into the Gulf....
THAT was how man was meant to live.....

I understand it’s all changed now for the worse....