South Carolina Governor Sanford vs. SC Lawmakers On Immigration Bill

WSPA-TV ^ | May 02, 2008 | AP

[Clear Rivers]

((The bill allows for fines as high as $10,000 when an employer knowingly hires an illegal immigrant. Sanford says federal law won't allow fines that range that high.))

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford says the Senate's illegal immigration bill has penalties that can't be enforced by the state.

Sanford says he will consider vetoing the bill if changes aren't made.

Senators passed a bill Wednesday that allows for fines as high as $10,000 when an employer knowingly hires an illegal immigrant. Sanford says federal law won't allow the state to impose fines that range that high.

The South Carolina Chamber of Commerce says it supports the penalties.

SC Senate leader says governor using Nazi-style propaganda tactic

The leader of the South Carolina Senate says Governor Sanford is using Nazi-style propaganda tactics in his disagreement with lawmakers.

Senate President Pro Tem Glenn McConnell said yesterday that Sanford is practicing --quote-- "Goebbels-style journalism" by making assertions believable simply because he repeats them over and over.

Josef Goebbels was Adolf Hitler's propaganda minister.

Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer says a comparison like that is absolutely uncalled for and the governor thinks McConnell owes South Carolina's Jewish community an apology.

[Clear Rivers]

Oh wellllll.

[MCCRon58]

Sooooo, I wonder who IS ensuring the meat packers in SC is getting their monies worth for the campaign contributions they have made?????

[fweingart]

Gee. And I had high hopes for this guy.

[babygene]

Since when does the Fed tell states how high a fine can be?

[Moose4]

Don’t get off the bus yet. It sounds like that if they can resolve the conflict with Federal law about the fines, he’d pass it. Sanford’s no Pandsey Graham.

What I can’t figure out is when Glenn McConnell went off his meds. That’s a REPUBLICAN backstabbing Sanford. When I lived down there, McConnell was a pretty stand-up guy. I can’t figure out why he’d invoke Godwin’s Law (an automatic loss of any argument, as any Internet nerd knows) and start name-dropping Nazis when talking about Sanford.

}:-)4

[freedomfiter2]

The bill allows for fines as high as $10,000 when an employer knowingly hires an illegal immigrant.

That’s just so wrong. The employer should be deported since he obviously has no loyalty to the US.

[Andy'smom]

Sanford: Immigration bill not tough enough
http://thestatecom.typepad.com/ygatoday/2008/05/sanford-immigra.html

[A Strict Constructionist]

I guess he’s hoping McPain notices that he’s a team player.

[Between the Lines]

Sanford says federal law won't allow the state to impose fines that range that high.

Sanford has vetoed other bills that he believed would not stand up in the courts. He is a real stickler for the law.

[CPT Clay]

Lets see if he is VP materiel.

[Liz]

ping

[Biblebelter]

McCain-Goober state, nuff said.

[4everontheRight]

This has been a heated debate in SC for weeks and the state senate is the biggest bunch of liars in the country!!! The Senate blames the House, the House blames the Senate and then they all turn around and blame Sanford!
Sanford supported E-Verify which was adopted by OK, etc. SC has the largest increase in Mexican illegals in the entire country!!! So what does the senate do???? They pass a bill with SC-9...their version of the federal I-9 form. And the catch is, there is no SC-9 form! It doesn't exist!! They say it will be developed. Basically all it will be is a state version of I9 and that isn't good enough!! We are overrun in this state with illegals and it has cost this state more then it's citizens even realize!! Sanford is trying to do all he can to stop the flow of illegals into our state especially since GA has now adopted a tougher law. This states politicians are an embarrassment

[Tennessee Nana]

And this is the guy that some people say would make a great conservative VP for McCain ?????

[JZelle]

Maybe he’s doing this to make himself more attractive to McCain.

[Liz]

All puckered up, on his knees, sucking up to illegals-—just like McC.

[Liz]

THIS JUST IN A US crackdown is causing the longest and most significant drop in illegal migration from Mexico since the Sept. 11 attacks.

Officials say the U.S. economic downturn, tighter security and a more perilous and expensive journey are persuading many who try to sneak into the US to give up sooner.

Border Patrol arrests are down 17 percent so far this year along the US-Mexico border after falling 20 percent all of last fiscal year and 8 percent the year before that.

While it’s impossible to know how many people are crossing illegally, the Patrol uses apprehensions to estimate the ebb and flow of traffic.

Migrant smugglers have to hunt for business at border-town shelters.

Many deported migrants give up after one try, taking their government up on free bus rides home.

[Czar]

Don't make me laugh--$10K is a slap on the wrist.

Try $25K. Much better attention getter.

[Liz]

I guess $10K is the suggested “campaign contribution.”

[Lancey Howard]

What I can’t figure out is when Glenn McConnell went off his meds.

Good question.
There must be something else going on.

[Darren McCarty]

Mark Sanford's one of my favorites, and this is another reason why. If he signs an illegal law, it gets tossed out of court. I know there's been a lot of debate over what Hazelton has done on this issue and they had troubles with the courts.

My gut feeling tells me that the pols in the State Senate want to pass a law they KNOW will be thrown out, have Sanford sign that. The courts then become the bad guys when it is tossed, and then say "We did what we could do, but the courts tossed it out."

[Darren McCarty]

Why sign a bill that will get tossed out of court anyway? Do it legally, and get the job done right.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I wish folks would read this article before jumping down Sanford’s throat. He prefers real solutions to grandstanding that accomplishes nothing.

[Lynne]

I understand the Senate version will only apply to employers with more than 100 employees. That will be no deterrent to all the landscapers, contractors, etc. that use illegal workers.

[LifeOrGoods?]

Wow. I used to think the world of Gov Sanford. Maybe the rumors that he wants to be McLame’s VP are true, because he's using McClame-like excuses to avoid solving a pressing problem in SC. Sign the bill already Mark!! Sheesh.

[LifeOrGoods?]

Disregard my knee-jerk reaction in my last post. Sanford is once again right on this one. Give ‘em hell Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!