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Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood
The Middle East Forum ^ | April 29, 2008 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 05/02/2008 8:02:38 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

As Barack Obama's candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate's integrity.

Obama asserted in December, "I've always been a Christian," and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. "The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country [Kenya]. But I've never practiced Islam." In February, he claimed: "I have never been a Muslim. … other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71] I have very little connection to the Islamic religion."

"Always" and "never" leave little room for equivocation. But many biographical facts, culled mainly from the American press, suggest that, when growing up, the Democratic candidate for president both saw himself and was seen as a Muslim.

Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".

Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them [to Kristof] with a first-rate accent."

Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).

Piety: Obama himself says that while living in Indonesia, a Muslim country, he "didn't practice [Islam]," implicitly acknowledging a Muslim identity. Indonesians differ in their memories of him. One, Rony Amir, describes Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam."

Obama's having been born and raised a Muslim and having left the faith to become a Christian make him neither more nor less qualified to become president of the United States. But if he was born and raised a Muslim and is now hiding that fact, this points to a major deceit, a fundamental misrepresentation about himself that has profound implications about his character and his suitability as president.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; danielpipes; husseinobama; kenya; nobama; obama; obamafamilly; obamafamily; obamatruthfile

Barack Obama's Catholic
school in Jakarta.




Barack Obama's public
school in Jakarta.


1 posted on 05/02/2008 8:02:38 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Once a Muslim always a Muslim. We do not need a stinking Mooselimb as president.


2 posted on 05/02/2008 8:10:28 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Awwww, c’mon. What’s wrong with a little taqqiya every now and then?! [/s]


3 posted on 05/02/2008 8:12:56 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

A reporter from the Washington Post called me to ask about my posts on FreeRepublic, regarding Obama’s Muslim background. He said that I was one of the earliest people to point it out, asked if I still considered it important. I told him, no not particularly, except for the fact that he is lying about it.


4 posted on 05/02/2008 8:18:40 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: Eva

A reporter from the WP reads FR? How did he get your phone #?


5 posted on 05/02/2008 8:21:46 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: roses of sharon

He figured out who my husband was through posts that I had made on FreeRepublic and called him at work.


6 posted on 05/02/2008 8:27:32 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: Eva
Indonesians Report Obama Was More Active as a Muslim than He Admits

You may have to scroll down a little to find the article.

I agree with you; the most significant issue here is his lying, not his childhood religion. IMO, Obama's talent for lying is at least as extraordinary as his oratory.

7 posted on 05/02/2008 8:28:19 AM PDT by freespirited (America's chickens vote Democrat.)
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To: Eva
except for the fact that he is lying about it.

Isn't there something in the Koran that makes it permissible to 'lie to the infidels' whenever necessary?

[That comes to mind every time I read of or hear of Obama denying his father's religion. Curiously, Rev. Wright seems to have had significant studies of Islam. So, is it just co-winky-dink that both the Rev. Wright and Obama have ties with Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam? Obama has/had some NoI members as advisers, and Rev. Wright recently had NoI members as bodyguards.]


8 posted on 05/02/2008 8:29:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Obama's having been born and raised a Muslim and having left the faith to become a Christian make him neither more nor less qualified to become president of the United States."

What is it that the moslems do to someone who has become apostate?

9 posted on 05/02/2008 8:29:32 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: TomGuy
"Isn't there something in the Koran that makes it permissible to 'lie to the infidels' whenever necessary?" Yep. Taqiyya. Photobucket
10 posted on 05/02/2008 8:31:13 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I understand that even when he was enrolled in the Catholic school, he was listed as muslim?

We all generally know this - but the sheeple must be reminded and he must be made to answer - as well as why the sounds of the call to prayers at, was it sunrise or sunset?, is the most beautiful sound in the world? He said that in the not to distant past...

and we need to FREEP Hannity, Rush - et al = I give up on O’Reilly - he's too wishy washy = wimps out when it really counts

11 posted on 05/02/2008 8:38:42 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: Eva
He figured out who my husband was through posts that I had made on FreeRepublic and called him at work.

That is scary to me about your privacy.
I have no faith in BHO and have many questions about his credibility. How such a shady person could be one step away from being CIC is stunning. So much for the MSM and freedom of press. They are worthless.

12 posted on 05/02/2008 8:40:17 AM PDT by Big Horn (I am bitter, I just want to eat my waffle.)
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To: Paleo Conservative; Eva; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; ...

13 posted on 05/02/2008 8:47:34 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: freespirited
Have you heard about the Obamometer? When Obama was at Harvard, the other students were amused at Obama's talent for brown nosing the professors, and said that he set the standard for being able to tell a professor what he wanted to hear, so they gaged everyone one else on the Obamometer. If a student was really doing a good snow job on the prof, they were said to be a ten on the Obamometer.

In other words, sincerity is not one of Obama's best traits. Usually though, it is more like lawyerly obfuscation than out and out lie. He is out and out lying about his Islamic background though.

Frankly, I don't think that Obama considers himself to be a Muslim. I don't think that he has considered himself a Muslim since his childhood. I think that he considers himself an atheist. So, that makes all the stories about being a Christian a lawyerly obfuscation. Black Liberation Theology claims to be Christian, but it is only christian.

14 posted on 05/02/2008 8:47:56 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: Eva
Wow, too bad the Washington Post can't do such investigative reporting on B. Hussein Obama, or OBL’s whereabouts, or Saddam's WMD movements, or Iran's nuke capabilities.....

Instead of an American citizen's posts on a political forum.

15 posted on 05/02/2008 8:52:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Big Horn

Yes, I stupidly gave out information on a public forum that I should not have given. We tend to think that no one reads FreeRepublic from the outside. We are wrong. They must have spent days, reading my posts on FreeRepublic.

You can now search google for anyone’s posts on FreeRepublic, by screen name. Just put in posts by ..... and your page of posts comes up. It’s scary and we should all be aware of it.

The scariest aspect of the prospect of an Obama presidency is the fact that Black Liberation Theology opposes all use of the military by the US. How can someone who doesn’t believe in the use of the military for any reason, be CIC?


16 posted on 05/02/2008 8:56:05 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: TomGuy

I don’t think that Obama is a Muslim any longer. I think that he is an atheist. Rev. Wright explained in the same article that is referenced by Daniel Pipes that Trinity was a good place for apostate Muslims and former gang members. The reason that is so is because Black Liberation Theology doesn’t recognize our God as a supreme being, but rather as a moral guide. BLT also doesn’t recognize the concept of personal sin. In BLT, the only sin that an “oppressed” person can be guilty of is failure to resist the oppressors. It’s pure post modernism. Life is nothing but a cultural meta narrative to be rewritten at will. It’s just like Bill Clinton’s answer that it all depends on what the meaning of “is” is.


17 posted on 05/02/2008 9:03:55 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: roses of sharon

Did you see my post that anyone can find all the posts from any poster on FreeRepublic, now, by googling posts by ...... ?

Yeah, scary. There are some posters here, who best be a lot more careful of what they say. It can easily come back to bite them.


18 posted on 05/02/2008 9:07:14 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: Eva
Yeah, scary. There are some posters here, who best be a lot more careful of what they say. It can easily come back to bite them.

What, and muzzle free speech?

obamassiah can just bite me!

(However, if you're talking about guns, I agree. :))

19 posted on 05/02/2008 9:28:05 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Paleo Conservative
In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them [to Kristof] with a first-rate accent."

What perhaps many non-Islamics are missing in this statement is that recitation of the call to prayer (the "Adhan") includes the Shahada, the Islamic profession of faith.

Simply reciting the Shahada is *all* that is required to be a Muslim --- and reciting it sincerely is not only necessary but it alone is sufficient to require the reciter to be considered an active and professing Muslim.

Since Senator Obama must be quite aware of this, his recitation of the Shahada to Mr. Kristof can *only* be interpreted as that he is professing to be a Muslim.

If Mr. Kristof's report is correct, then I regard this event to be the perhaps the most single significant event in this whole campaign.

20 posted on 05/02/2008 9:54:02 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: PhilDragoo

Thank you, Phil!

I do believe Barry has fibbed.


21 posted on 05/02/2008 8:54:07 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Operation Chaos has resumed...)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Two more links, the first with comments on his older brother and his first cousin in Africa, both Marxists...one the co-pres. of Kenya, and the second with vast information of his past history:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2649

http://www.theobamafile.com/

And, one more: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559


22 posted on 05/02/2008 10:11:01 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: Paleo Conservative

I suspect all the dollars that Obamasama is using to finance his presidential campaign (OK...MOST of them) come from Muslim donors.

His background is too nebulous, his foreground is too PC to be believed and accepted by any THINKING American.

His middle name should be a warning to the entire country! Spread the WORD!!!


23 posted on 05/02/2008 10:39:50 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( If your time ain't come, not even a doctor can kill you.)
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To: Eva

Innocence is bliss.


24 posted on 05/02/2008 10:42:09 PM PDT by Monkey Face ( If your time ain't come, not even a doctor can kill you.)
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To: maine-iac7
” understand that even when he was enrolled in the Catholic school, he was listed as muslim?”

I do not care if Barack Hussein Obama is a Christian or Muslim.
I just want to never, ever call him President.

25 posted on 05/02/2008 11:15:28 PM PDT by DaltonNC
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To: Paleo Conservative
It's the muslim way to lie & deceive if it advances your muslims cause and way of life.

Daniel Pipes is one of the best on islamic fundamentalism and its threat to mankind.

26 posted on 05/03/2008 3:47:59 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: freespirited
"I agree with you; the most significant issue here is his lying, not his childhood religion. IMO, Obama's talent for lying is at least as extraordinary as his oratory."

However, I also feel that it is significant that the Muslims are and have been teaching in the Mosques that they must infiltrate western governments in order to overthrow the governments, to rid the world of what they term ( KEFFER)- non believers and establish Sharia Law, rid the world of impurities, gain conversions and a dimmi construct. Obama wants to disarm us, tax us beyond our means and go soft on Islam...WHY? Beware of Obama!

He and his so called Christian Church had many Muslims within it's walls.

27 posted on 05/03/2008 7:45:32 AM PDT by oswegodeee (Dee ( Born and raised in the south, with a gracious attitude ))
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To: Paleo Conservative

We have elected a Muslim.


28 posted on 12/18/2008 3:18:17 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama is not my president until we see his birth certificate. A real one.)
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