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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
Everyone:

Please read the article before you post. She is a Quaker, and the University would not allow her to add an addendum to the oath clarifying her statement to solely include non-violent methods - she takes the oath seriously, and won't simply just sign her name. Other California agencies allow their employees with religious objections to add such addendums - she should be given the same consideration.

8 posted on 05/02/2008 11:53:56 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum

Defending oneself is always non-violence.


10 posted on 05/02/2008 12:02:44 PM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: thefrankbaum
Some accommodation should have been made . We have Quakers , Jehovah's Witnesses , and many others whose beliefs conflict with swearing oaths and pledges . The fact we have a long history of such accommodations makes me wonder .
12 posted on 05/02/2008 12:07:56 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: thefrankbaum
Where in the California oath does it say that she would be called on to use VIOLENT means?

That is only in the INS loyalty oath for citizenship:

"I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my signature."

20 posted on 05/02/2008 12:17:51 PM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: thefrankbaum
Other California agencies allow their employees with religious objections to add such addendums - she should be given the same consideration.

If it is true that the state allows exceptions in other state agencies, then I think she has a case. Otherwise, I'd say she should just look for a job elsewhere.

32 posted on 05/02/2008 12:52:01 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: thefrankbaum

Quakers are the biggest libs around.


34 posted on 05/02/2008 1:05:40 PM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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