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Rev Jeremiah Wright to retire in 'white suburb'
UK Telegraph ^ | May 03 2008 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 05/03/2008 10:05:43 AM PDT by knighthawk

The fiery African-American pastor whose incendiary outbursts on race have dented the prospects of Barack Obama becoming the first black US president is to retire to an upmarket suburb where almost all of the residents are white.

Grateful parishioners of Rev Jeremiah Wright, 66, are building him a $1 million, 10,400 sq ft mansion, next to a country club and golf course in the prosperous Chicago suburb of Tinley Park. In the 2000 census, just two per cent of Tinley Park’s 48,400 residents were black and 93 per cent were white.

Rev Wright built up his Chicago mega-church over 36 years on the principles of black liberation theology under the bold slogan, “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian”, and Mr Obama was among his most enthusiastic parishioners - until he was forced to disavow him completely last week.

The Trinity United Church of Christ is located in the heart of the city’s rundown and predominantly African-American South Side, and worshippers are instructed to live by its self-proclaimed Black Value System. Among the tenets is “Disavowal of the Pursuit of 'Middleclassness’.”

But Rev Wright will not be living among his flock following his recent retirement. Instead, he is leaving them in pursuit of distinctly middle class - indeed upper-middle class - environs.

According to building plans reviewed by Chicago newspapers, Mr Wright and his wife Ramah will not be the poor relations in their new and overwhelmingly white neighbourhood. The property will boast four bedrooms, a whirlpool, butler’s pantry, elevator, exercise room, circular driveway and four-car garage.

Real estate records show that Rev Wright bought the empty land in 2004 and sold it two years later to Trinity, the current owner, which later took out a $1.6 million mortgage on the property.

During his 36 years at its helm, Rev Wright built up Trinity from a church with 87 members to a congregation of 10,000 that includes many of the most influential figures in black Chicago. By joining its ranks, Mr Obama overcame some of the local doubts he faced as the Harvard-educated son of a white woman and Kenyan man who had been brought up in Hawaii.

But his former spiritual mentor’s rants against white America are dogging his campaign. Video clips of Rev Wright bellowing “God Damn America” are expected to feature prominently in Republican attack ads if, as expected, Mr Obama secures the Democratic nomination.

Rev Wright turned Trinity into one of the most powerful and well-funded institutions in Chicago’s South Side with the help of contributions from adherents such as the Obamas who gave the church $26,000, according to their 2007 tax returns.

And in America, it is not unusual for pastors of such financially successful churches to be rewarded for their accomplishments with rather more than a carriage clock or wristwatch at retirement. It is the ethnic/racial breakdown of Rev Wright’s preferred home for his retirement years that has caused surprise.

Trinity did not respond to a request for comment by The Sunday Telegraph. The national United Church of Christ has said that it is for local congregations to decide how to spend their funds and that it is appropriate for local churches to provide housing for long-time pastors when they retire.


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1 posted on 05/03/2008 10:05:43 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 05/03/2008 10:06:05 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

No way in HELL is a 10,000 sq ft house only a Million Dollars!! It hase to be at least 5 Million!!


3 posted on 05/03/2008 10:07:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: knighthawk

Ah yes, these hypocrites hate Whitey until it’s time for a decent neighborhood and school.

Then we’re not so bad after all.

I wonder if we would be as welcome with them. /s


4 posted on 05/03/2008 10:12:02 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: knighthawk

“Movin on up” - Norman Lear


5 posted on 05/03/2008 10:12:22 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: knighthawk

Unapologetically Christian........still trying to figure out how he can view David/Jonathan as homosexuals, and think abortion is cool. Maybe it should be... Unable to explain why we we call ourselves Christian.


6 posted on 05/03/2008 10:13:13 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Ann Archy

I heard several times the figure was 10 million.


7 posted on 05/03/2008 10:14:05 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Ann Archy

Housing costs in that neighborhood will decrease once the people know who lives there.


8 posted on 05/03/2008 10:14:16 AM PDT by 353FMG (Don't make the mistake to think that Government is a Friend of the People)
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To: knighthawk
Absolutely obnoxious for a preacher to be accepting a $1,000,000 house from his flock.

A 10,000 sq ft house costs much more than $1 million to build.

Aside from that, how can a man of the cloth accept this gift when there are so many needy Blacks who could be helped with this money.

Mustn't take the vow of poverty in the Black Theological religious orders.

9 posted on 05/03/2008 10:14:51 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: I still care

The ten million dollars was the line of credit that came along with the house. According to the loan docs, the line of credit is for “unspecified purposes”.


10 posted on 05/03/2008 10:17:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
And from this link....

Honesty in the Public Arena

....As we reported, the reverend will soon move into a multimillion-dollar home. And now "The Factor" has learned he drives two Mercedes Benz automobiles worth about $142,000. In addition, Wright's church has access to an astounding $10 million line of credit.

Those parishoners need their heads examined.

11 posted on 05/03/2008 10:19:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: knighthawk
...contributions from adherents such as the Obamas who gave the church $26,000, according to their 2007 tax returns.

Pretty serious dough for a message you disagree with.

12 posted on 05/03/2008 10:20:02 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Mark was here

I’d like to know where the money from that 10 million dollar line of credit has been going. Into Obama’s campaign coffers maybe? Or to Hamas...?


13 posted on 05/03/2008 10:21:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: knighthawk
"I hate whitey...but they sure got some cushy, nice, safe 'burbs."

The hypocracy and opulence is astounding.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY AND OBAMA'S CHURCH

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - OBAMA'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS AND SUPPORT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

14 posted on 05/03/2008 10:27:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: knighthawk
No way he wants to live amongst a bunch of angry Black people (i.e. his Parishioners).
15 posted on 05/03/2008 10:32:09 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: knighthawk

Church pastors deserve a relaxed and prosperous retirement - even if the pastor is controversial. But this is obscene.


16 posted on 05/03/2008 10:33:14 AM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: knighthawk
A new house??!! For me??!! In a white neighborhood??!! You really do love me!!


17 posted on 05/03/2008 10:35:15 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: knighthawk
Retirement perks for retired pastors of Black Liberation Theology churches:


18 posted on 05/03/2008 10:37:53 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy - Codename -> "Bobber")
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To: knighthawk
Hypocrite.
19 posted on 05/03/2008 10:39:31 AM PDT by BigFinn
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To: knighthawk

There goes the neighborhood.


20 posted on 05/03/2008 10:42:04 AM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: knighthawk
"Grateful parishioners of Rev Jeremiah Wright, 66, are building him a $1 million, 10,400 sq ft mansion, next to a country club and golf course in the prosperous Chicago suburb of Tinley Park. In the 2000 census, just two per cent of Tinley Park’s 48,400 residents were black and 93 per cent were white."

I guess the good reverend is not worried about running into any of those angry, bible thumping, gun toting white hicks in his new stomping grounds. On the other hand, I can't help but notice that he is also not moving to the South Side of Chicago where he would most likely meet some angry, crack dealing, gun toting, gang banging black folks either. What a hypocrite!

21 posted on 05/03/2008 10:51:15 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: knighthawk

bump


22 posted on 05/03/2008 10:51:37 AM PDT by VOA
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To: BigFinn
Hypocrite.

You took the word right out of my mouth.
23 posted on 05/03/2008 11:03:54 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I may be crazy,but I’m not stupid!


24 posted on 05/03/2008 11:07:12 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: rovenstinez

As a Christian I am baffled also. Also, I have never known a pastor that has the largest house in the congregation. They usually have modest homes. This is getting to be sickening.


25 posted on 05/03/2008 11:21:25 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: knighthawk
Unapologetically Christian

Oxymoron? I've heard very little Love, Hope or Charity from him or an assortment of the other Black Popes running around.

His parishioners should have chipped in to by him a super huge cuisinart,just so he can take his camel to heaven with him.

26 posted on 05/03/2008 11:38:42 AM PDT by OeOeO (Sic Transit Gloria Mundi... Gloria get me a beer,and hurry..)
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To: OeOeO

Wright may be “unapologetically Christian”, but his definition of Christian is not the traditional definition. My guess is that Wright doesn’t believe in a Jewish Christ. His Jesus is closer to the Islamic Jesus. Wright never says that Jesus wasn’t Jewish, but he does state that Jesus was a Black man. Now, I know that there are African Jews, but I don’t think that is what Wright is talking about.


27 posted on 05/03/2008 11:49:41 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- new euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: knighthawk

Wright retire! LOL Yeah right! He will be the Jimmy Carter of the preachers in the coming years. People like that can’t shut up. And worst of all he will make millions on his speaking engagements. You won’t be seeing him down at the car wash. And for all of this you can thank the MSM.


28 posted on 05/03/2008 1:32:42 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism is dying. Thank God!)
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To: knighthawk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinley_Park,_Illinois

As of the 2000 census[4], there were 48,401 people, 17,478 households, and 12,793 families residing in the village. The population density was 3,236.9 people per square mile (1,250.0/km²). There were 18,037 housing units at an average density of 1,206.2/sq mi (465.8/km²). The racial makeup of the village was 93.16% White, 1.92% African American, 0.13% Native American, 2.38% Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 1.11% from other races, and 1.27% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 4.13% of the population. The top five ancentries reported in Tinley Park as of the 2000 census were Irish (25.5%), German (23.1%), Polish (19.7%), Italian (14.3%) and Dutch (5.3%).

Long way from the South Side.

29 posted on 05/03/2008 3:28:26 PM PDT by TheMole
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To: TheMole
Long way from the South Side.

Movin' on up...

30 posted on 05/03/2008 3:40:51 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: knighthawk

There were photos of the house posted on a thread a few weeks ago. If anyone has them, it’d be nice to have them here!


31 posted on 05/03/2008 4:36:14 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: mewzilla

Such as a swimming pool, tennis court, etc.


32 posted on 05/03/2008 4:37:23 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: mewzilla

Who would loan this church $10M? And for what? Don’t they have some subprime homeowners they could bail out instead?


33 posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:24 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: knighthawk
Real estate records show that Rev Wright bought the empty land in 2004 and sold it two years later to Trinity, the current owner, which later took out a $1.6 million mortgage on the property.

Waitaminute.

He sold the lot to his church? For how much and did he pay taxes on the gain? And the church presently owns the land on which he is building a home? And the church is presently liable for the mortgage on Wright's house?

Is this dude and this church going to get audited soon?

34 posted on 05/03/2008 4:40:56 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: Desron13

I really wonder how “grateful” those parishners truly are.

I wonder if they even actually knew this deal had gone down and where their money was going and how MUCH was going there.

I wonder if the church had any procedures for making decisions such as this and whether they were followed.

I wonder if Obama knew that his money was going to help buy a house in a TWP neighborhood for Wright to live a luxurious retirement.


35 posted on 05/03/2008 4:43:45 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: fightinJAG

So if the church owns the land is it tax free?

Good deal! White neighborhood too.


36 posted on 05/03/2008 4:43:46 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: fish hawk

Yeah, all the while the MSM is wailing about how unfair it is that Wright has been made the story, they are setting him up for a high-flying life for the rest of his life.

Someday, though, I think he might just hear someone Very Important say, “Nope. You got yours already, Wright.”


37 posted on 05/03/2008 4:45:31 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: fightinJAG
Here is the house

The four- bedroom, 10,000-plus square foot home that Trinity United Church of Christ is building for Reverend Jeremiah Wright. (FNC Photo)

From this Link
38 posted on 05/03/2008 4:49:35 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

Thanks!


39 posted on 05/03/2008 5:36:27 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: ladyjane

I tell you, there is something fishy about this deal.


40 posted on 05/03/2008 5:37:07 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: ladyjane

I think a tax-exempt religious organization can buy debt-financed land if it intends to use the land for a tax-exempt purpose within 15 years (or something like that).

So WRIGHT buys the land and two years later sells it to the church-—for what tax-exempt purpose? Is his home going to be his home or the parish home? And if it’s the parish home, shouldn’t it be used by the CURRENT preacher, not a retired, former preacher?


41 posted on 05/03/2008 5:41:57 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: knighthawk
Compare:

Bishop's charity generous to bishop

New Birth's Long received $3 million

Atlanta Journal-Constitution/August 28, 2005 By John Blake

In 1995, Bishop Eddie Long established a nonprofit, tax-exempt charity to help the needy and spread the gospel.

But it was Long, leader of the largest church congregation in Georgia, who became the charity's biggest beneficiary.

The charity, Bishop Eddie Long Ministries Inc., provided him with at least $3.07 million in salary, benefits and the use of property between 1997 and 2000 --- nearly as much as it gave to all other recipients combined during those years, tax records show.

It is one of at least 20 nonprofit and for-profit corporations that Long founded after becoming pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in 1987. Long's businesses include a music publishing company and a transportation service.

The charity's compensation to Long over that four-year period included:

A $1.4 million six-bedroom, nine-bath home on 20 acres in Lithonia.

Use of a $350,000 luxury Bentley automobile.

More than $1 million in salary, including $494,000 in 2000.

Long said the charity, which reported that it stopped doing business after 2000, did not solicit donations from New Birth members. It reported that its income included royalties, speaking fees and several large donations.

The charity made $3.1 million in donations to others between 1997 and 2000, the records show, but they did not contain any itemized breakdown of the donations, as required by the Internal Revenue Service.

Nonprofit groups are exempt from paying state and federal income taxes if they meet certain criteria. In return, the federal tax code says their executives' benefits may not be excessive.

Long and his wife, Vanessa, were two of the charity's four board members. The charity gave a third board member, Terrance Thornton, a $160,000 loan in 1999 to buy a home site across the street from Long's house, tax records show.

Long's tax attorney, J. David Epstein, said an independent compensation committee, along with a second committee within New Birth and a national accounting firm, oversaw those decisions. He declined to identify the firm or members of the committees.

Long, 52, defended his compensation during an interview about his charity. He's transformed New Birth, based in Lithonia, from a 300-member church to a 25,000-member megachurch with a global presence, according to the church's Web site.

"We're not just a church, we're an international corporation," Long said. "We're not just a bumbling bunch of preachers who can't talk and all we're doing is baptizing babies. I deal with the White House. I deal with Tony Blair. I deal with presidents around this world. I pastor a multimillion-dollar congregation.

"You've got to put me on a different scale than the little black preacher sitting over there that's supposed to be just getting by because the people are suffering."

rest of article here . . .

42 posted on 05/03/2008 5:50:22 PM PDT by fightinJAG (RUSH: McCain was in the Hanoi Hilton longer than we've been in Iraq, and never gave up.)
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To: knighthawk

Where else would a rich White liberal bigot like Wright live ?


43 posted on 05/03/2008 7:20:12 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: knighthawk

He’ll fit in fine. He’s whiter than I am.


44 posted on 05/03/2008 9:03:09 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: mewzilla; doug from upland; stephenjohnbanker; Mr. Silverback

A $10M LOC would be based on roughly $10M in EQUITY equity in the property/improvements...or else a bank officer has grossly breached shareholder trust and due diligence, methinks.

Paging some experts...


45 posted on 05/03/2008 9:10:56 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Norman Bates; LdSentinal
If I were Obama, I'd have him retire in Antarctica.
46 posted on 05/03/2008 9:31:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I suspect that the line of credit is co-secured by the property and by the collection plate. A great deal of revenue comes in to that church.

When the teachers unions in California fought the proposition on the ballot that would have required yearly approval to use union dues for politics, they took out a loan for $50 million for a last-minute advertising blitz. That loan was secured by ....................... teachers’ salaries.


47 posted on 05/03/2008 9:53:38 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: knighthawk

This gated golf course neighborhood is probably the most upscale part of Tinsley Park, too......I’ll bet that this upscale gated community is not even “2%” black..... maybe Wright, like Jesse Jackson, gets scared when he’s on the street and sees young black men behind him...... so he’s moved to a place where he doesn’t have to confront the phenomenon of street crime, safely ensconced behind secure gates. So much for his devotion to his “brothers” in the ‘hood.....

btw, who ever heard of a fancy mansion nowadays being built for only $100/square foot (10,000 sq ft for $1 million???). I’d guess that it’s more like a $4-5 million mansion, at least...... there must be a reason for that $10 million line of credit.


48 posted on 05/04/2008 12:22:34 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: knighthawk

Says quite a bit about this ‘pastor’. He too good to live in the same neighborhoods his parishioners do? Apparently so. Isn’t he afraid all that surrounding Whiteness will rub off on him?

If his congregation is stupid enough to foot the bill for such hypocrisy shame on them.


49 posted on 05/04/2008 4:26:53 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot
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To: knighthawk
Grateful parishioners of Rev Jeremiah Wright, 66, are building him a $1 million, 10,400 sq ft mansion, next to a country club and golf course in the prosperous Chicago suburb of Tinley Park.

Mr Wright and his wife Ramah will not be the poor relations in their new and overwhelmingly white neighbourhood. The property will boast four bedrooms, a whirlpool, butler’s pantry, elevator, exercise room, circular driveway and four-car garage.

During his 36 years at its helm, Rev Wright built up Trinity from a church with 87 members to a congregation of 10,000 that includes many of the most influential figures in black Chicago.

I excerpted the key points I wanted to address from the article. This nasty, hateful, racist old country, and that hateful God who has for some reason smiled on it, sure did treat Mr. Wright horribly. I'm white, educated, and worked my @$$ off all my life, and I'll never have any of the above. I don't begrudge him a penny of what he's got; I wish he could afford a bigger house, in a better place.

What I DO find infuriating is for people like the Reverend Wright to complain about America, while gorging himself on its fruits. I'd be willing to be be called a n****r every day for the kind of remuneration he's gotten.

He's lived a fuller, more productive, more interesting, more lucrative life than I, a supposed member of the "ruling class". Again, I don't begrudge him that. I chose my life style. What I despise is someone like him crying about the evil system and what it's done to him. Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, the Clintons, and a bunch of others are on my list for the same sins, in case any of you think this is a race thing deep down inside.

50 posted on 05/04/2008 4:35:05 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (A Zero Tolerance Policy isn’t a one way street.)
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