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“””The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly, but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the family’s Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned. It seems hard to fathom, but in the middle of democratic Western Europe — in Germany, a nation where pacifism is almost a universal mantra — murderous macho patriotism not only exists but also appears to be thriving. It may even be Germany’s liberalism — and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures — that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.””” (more excerpt from Spiegel online)

Yet another example of how the “religion of peace” handles family differences.


2 posted on 05/03/2008 11:52:53 AM PDT by MCCRon58 (Freedom does not mean you are free from the consequences of your own freely made decisions.)
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To: MCCRon58
It may even be Germany’s liberalism — and its post World War II fear of criticizing minority cultures — that has encouraged ultra-religious families to settle here.”””

Ja, Ja, the Chermuns are incredibly pacifistic. I spent two weeks traveling around the country twenty years ago, and even then, they all seemed quite wussy, particularly the young people.

However, Turks have lived there for a long time, apparently without incident. They've worked hard and done well and are pleasant and accommodating. Perhaps they've always murdered their women, but I think it more likely that new Islamofascistic values are pervading their population. The Germans better get smart in a hurry.

13 posted on 05/03/2008 12:22:49 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: MCCRon58
There should be a campaign in Berlin (and elsewhere), in which the locals say some word or phrase, like "LeChaim" openly, or quietly, on the bus, in the grocery store, from the podium, wherever. It will say to the immigrant Muslim population that our culture reveres life, not so-called "honor killing."

Let them hear the message from thousands of lips, yea, millions, inexorably, until they realize they need either to live and let live within our culture or leave it, and stop trying to transplant their 7th century death cult onto our 21st century culture.

It would be my (unfulfilled) wish that the entire extended family in which such a killing has taken place be deported from every western culture country in which they might reside and never allowed to return to western culture.

HF

14 posted on 05/03/2008 12:31:20 PM PDT by holden
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