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Watch the web for climate change truths (Brits getting it!)
telegraph uk ^ | 4/5/2008 | Christopher Booker

Posted on 05/04/2008 3:31:41 PM PDT by milwguy

A notable story of recent months should have been the evidence pouring in from all sides to cast doubts on the idea that the world is inexorably heating up. The proponents of man-made global warming have become so rattled by how the forecasts of their computer models are being contradicted by the data that some are rushing to modify the thesis.

So a German study, published by Nature last week, claimed that, while the world is definitely warming, it may cool down until 2015 "while natural variations in climate cancel out the increases caused by man-made greenhouse gas emissions".

It won't do for believers in warmist orthodoxy to claim that, although temperatures may be falling, this is only because they are "masking an underlying warming trend that is still continuing" - nor to fob us off with assurances that the "German model shows that higher temperatures than 1998, the warmest year on record, are likely to return after 2015".

In view of what is now at stake, such quasi-religious incantations masquerading as science are something we can no longer afford. We should get back to proper science before it is too late.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: algore; globalwarming
The word is getting out into the MSM, slowly, but surely. I believe the global food shortage is going to provide the MSM with the cover they need to expose the fraud of Global Warming. With people starving around the world, the corporate global warming whores at GE will not be able to continue to suppress the truth.

Al and his Branch Algorians are strangely quiet these days as stories of food riots around the world percolate in the news.

1 posted on 05/04/2008 3:31:41 PM PDT by milwguy
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 05/04/2008 3:34:17 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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“Al and his Branch Algorians are strangely quiet...”

Just wait until the leading edge of the new ice cap, caused by the global cooling that is caused by global warming, gets close to Algore’s mansion in Nashville. He’s already paying 20 times the average homeowner’s utility bill for his 10,000 sq. ft. domicile, but his carbon footprint will get even bigger then.


3 posted on 05/04/2008 3:39:31 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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“natural variations in climate cancel out the increases caused by man-made greenhouse gas emissions”

Alllll rigghty then.


4 posted on 05/04/2008 4:09:36 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: milwguy
I'll say the Brits are getting it.

Boris Johnson claimed a remarkable victory in the London mayoral contest on Friday night to cap a disastrous series of results for Gordon Brown in his first electoral test as Prime Minister. Mr Johnson's landmark victory, a result that would have been almost unthinkable six months ago, was the most symbolic blow to Mr Brown's authority on a day that left the Prime Minister facing the gravest crisis of his leadership.
—Andrew Porter and Robert Winnett, The Daily Telegraph, 3 May 2008

This guy is glad that Bush never pushed for Kyoto.

Londoners now face a stark choice. Boris Johnson is an environmental vandal, whose main contribution to environmental policy was as a cheerleader for George W Bush's disastrous decision to oppose the Kyoto climate treaty. The election is neck and neck and everyone who cares about the environment needs to vote with the first and second preferences for myself and Sian Berry if we are to stop Boris Johnson wrecking London's environment.’
—Ken Livingstone, 25 April 2008

Washington, are you listening?
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO REGULATE CO2 EMMISSIONS FOR ANY REASON.

5 posted on 05/04/2008 4:12:44 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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And we are supposed to be terrified that the half of nothing we are guilty of will be held against us by the Lords of Kobal... no wait...
6 posted on 05/04/2008 4:33:49 PM PDT by JasonC
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Great article and great links within the article. I followed one, Watts Up With That? and found another great article, More Carbon Dioxide, Please. Not only is that article quite enlightening about CO2 and the Glowbull Warming scam the comments that follow it are also packed with first rate information. For instance...

Of particular interest is the fact that the amplitude of the wave, the difference between the high and low seasonal points of each year, serves as a relative measure of the vegetative productivity for a given year, and the amplitude has been increasing. Between 1958 and 1999, this “breath of the biosphere” has increased by 19.5%, and “is primarily a direct result of atmospheric fertilization” (18).”

(snip)

Considering the fact that CO2 levels were about 4000 ppm when plants first evolved, 3500 ppm when gymnosperms first evolved, and 2250 ppm when angiosperms first evolved, it is difficult to imagine that levels modestly above today’s levels will have dramatically negative effects. If we did not have run-away greenhouse at 4000 ppm, we are certainly not going to experience it at 400, 500 or even 600 ppm.

The full comment (made by poster Don Healy) includes a source link and explains those statements in detail. From the facts and figures presented her one has to wonder whether current atmospheric CO2 levels aren't dangerously near starvation levels for vegetation. One thing is certain; plants do considerably better at much higher levels.

7 posted on 05/04/2008 4:53:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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As I understand it, Margaret Thatcher was the first or one of the first to speak of global warming, but later became disgusted with how the subject was being popularized, politicized, and used to make money.

Here’s a great link - and Lord Moncton worked with Margaret Thatcher.

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/expert.cfm?expertId=349


8 posted on 05/04/2008 4:59:29 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Come tiptoe through the tulips with me)
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The GW clowns are going to try and cover up their lie by saying it is cooling now, “but just you wait!”...Let’s hope the people are smart enough to see through this crap.


9 posted on 05/04/2008 5:22:11 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just Say Nobama!)
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"...although temperatures may be falling, this is only because they are "masking an underlying warming trend that is still continuing".


10 posted on 05/04/2008 6:24:45 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Sincerity is everything. If you can fake that, youÂ’ve got it made." Groucho Marx)
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The big question, and its answer might obliterate any last shards of credibility the MMGW advocates have, are CO2 levels.

If, and that’s a big if, we get honest readings, and they show CO2 levels dropping, the big question will be “How fast?”

If CO2 levels only slowly start a downward trend because of the cooling, they will still be able to fudge them. However, if they drop precipitously, the debate will be over.


11 posted on 05/04/2008 6:36:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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12 posted on 05/04/2008 8:58:17 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Thou shalt not teach theory as science!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
Do you see what I see?
 

13 posted on 05/04/2008 9:04:06 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Thou shalt not teach theory as science!)
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"German model shows that higher temperatures than 1998, the warmest year on record, are likely to return after 2015".

It's well known that errors were discovered in the claim that 1998 was the warmest year on record. After corrections were made, the warmest year on record was 1934.

One of many articles on this:
http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/08/1998_no_longer_the_hottest_yea.html

14 posted on 05/20/2008 2:52:52 PM PDT by RJL
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