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Texas used seized FLDS records against polygamous sect
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 05/06/2008 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 05/06/2008 5:16:55 AM PDT by MrEdd

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To: ricks_place
untimely ripped from the Sacred FLDS Tabernacle

Where they 'worshiped' Warren Jeffs. This is not a religion it is a cult.

Many men in the sect have been officially married to one wife, but might have a dozen or more unofficial “spiritual wives” who could qualify for welfare payments—another way to drain money from the government. The sect calls this tactic “bleeding the beast.”

81 posted on 05/06/2008 8:19:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: takenoprisoner; brytlea
These actions lend credibility to the communist chinese who argue that Americans need to clean up our own human rights violations before passing judgment on them.

You're equating protecting children with organ harvesting and forced abortions?

The alleged human rights violations that people are complaining that the US government is engaging in here pale by comparison to organ harvesting and forced abortions.

The Chinese have no platform from which to complain about human rights violations.

Show us where the government did anything legally wrong here.

82 posted on 05/06/2008 8:19:40 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: commonguymd

That’s an individual choice though isn’t it? Honoring parents...traditions. If they had said no and she decided to marry you anyway would she have been able to?


83 posted on 05/06/2008 8:20:18 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: commonguymd

However, in the US I don’t think the family could force her into the marriage, if she wanted to fight it.
susie


84 posted on 05/06/2008 8:22:22 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: kbennkc

” In fact there does not seem to be a respect for the individual “

Welcome to the world of cults.


85 posted on 05/06/2008 8:22:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Exactly my point.

Real men don’t want that (and we have lots of good, real men here) :)


86 posted on 05/06/2008 8:22:49 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: commonguymd

BTW as a parent, I think I would be GREAT at picking my sons wives. They think they know better, however (and so far, they’ve done a great job).
susie


87 posted on 05/06/2008 8:22:59 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: commonguymd

....you will smooch her until she comes around??? ;)


88 posted on 05/06/2008 8:23:17 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: CindyDawg

Heck,
I’ll hand them the mop.


89 posted on 05/06/2008 8:28:11 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: CindyDawg

If they really believe it’s the only way to get into heaven, most of them will never buck that system. And if you are raised to believe something, it’s very difficult to get past it. Look at suicide bombers. I mean, it’s very difficult for me to imagine doing that, but there seems to be a large number who do it.
susie


90 posted on 05/06/2008 8:28:24 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

“Great, so you admit his post was pure hyperbole??!!! “

Yes. But was it Award Winning Hyperbole?

If we took it to a vote, I’m going with the comments about Americans with Weapons of Mass Destruction invading the Ranch and burning the children at the stake.


91 posted on 05/06/2008 8:33:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: AppyPappy

Isn’t that ironic .


92 posted on 05/06/2008 8:33:40 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: najida

Technically that’s just what Texas has done. We can’t hold it for them though.


93 posted on 05/06/2008 8:36:38 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: brytlea

I think we also forget the total isolation that is involved...while some cheer no TV, imagine NO news, no Discovery, HGTV, TLC, History channel....
Or the food network even! ;)

Imagine no internet, ever. We live here, imagine never touching a keyboard.

Plus little to no outside contact with non-sect members. What you know about them, you believe is truth, so if you’re told they’re demonic cannibals, why question?

Imagine that the only books you have access to are the Bible and other semi-religious books. No novels, magazines, newspapers etc.

Your whole belief system is based on what your God/Prophet tells you is real (And yes, the only way he can have that much power is by eliminating all of the above).

Of course they don’t think any different...where would the thoughts come from?


94 posted on 05/06/2008 8:36:44 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida

Some do manage to get out though. What makes them different?


95 posted on 05/06/2008 8:39:26 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: UCANSEE2

Oh my, I missed that one! We need an award....
susie


96 posted on 05/06/2008 8:39:56 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: CindyDawg
Fill the vacuum in their minds with information, knowledge, education....what they do with it will be their choice.

Ok, and visit to a different church or too, a day at a spa, a jaunt to a mall, a trip to a library, a day at the movies, an afternoon on a computer etc. Odds of conversion are greatly increased.

97 posted on 05/06/2008 8:40:06 AM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: najida

Exactly.
susie


98 posted on 05/06/2008 8:41:03 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: najida

Some adults may go back but once they have tasted freedom...life will not be the same.


99 posted on 05/06/2008 8:42:11 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

That is such an excellent question.
susie


100 posted on 05/06/2008 8:42:43 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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