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Iran clerics rebuke Ahmadinejad over 'hidden imam'
AFP/Breitbart ^ | 5/7/2008 | unattributed

Posted on 05/07/2008 9:02:28 AM PDT by mojito

Clerics have told President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to stick to more worldly issues after he was quoted as saying the "hidden imam" of Shiite Islam was directing Iran. Ahmadinejad has always been a devotee of the Mahdi, the twelfth imam of Shiite Islam, who Shiites believe disappeared more than a thousand years ago and who will return one day to usher in a new era of peace and harmony.

But in a speech to theology students broadcast by state television on Monday, Ahmadinejad went further than ever before in emphasising his belief that the Mahdi is playing a critical role in Iran's day-to-day politics.

"The Imam Mahdi is in charge of the world and we see his hand directing all the affairs of the country," he said in the speech, which appears to date from last month but has only now been broadcast.

"We must solve Iran's internal problems as quickly as possible. Time is lacking. A movement has started for us to occupy ourselves with our global responsibilities, which are arriving with great speed."

Two leading clerics retorted that Ahmadinejad would be better off concentrating on Iran's social problems -- most notably its double-digit inflation -- than indulging in such mystical rhetoric.

"If Ahmadinejad wants to say that the hidden imam is supporting the decisions of the government, it is not true," sniped Gholam Reza Mesbahi Moghadam, the spokesman of the conservative Association of Combatant Clerics.

"For sure, the hidden imam does not approve of inflation of 20 percent, the high cost of living and numerous other errors," he said, according to the Kargozaran daily.

Ali Asghari, a member of the conservative Hezbollah faction in parliament, told the president not to link the management of the country to the imam.

"Ahmadinejad would do better to worry about social problems like inflation ... and other terrestrial affairs," Etemad Melli daily quoted him as saying.

Since becoming president in 2005, Ahmadinejad has repeatedly stated that his government is paving the way for the return of the Mahdi and chided his foes for not believing that his return is imminent


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 12thimam; ahmadinejad; apocalypse; iran; islam; madhi; mahdi; nucleariran; nuclearweapons; shiite; wot
Nutjob is starting to worry even the clerics with this hidden imam stuff. I don't think "rebuke" is the right word. These people are afraid. And Nutjob isn't going to listent to them anyway.
1 posted on 05/07/2008 9:02:29 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

BUT they DO have a way to taking care of Nutjob ya know.


2 posted on 05/07/2008 9:07:14 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: mojito
"The Imam Mahdi is in charge of the world . . . "

Oh good. An Iranian version of David Koresh, but with a huge arsenal of weapons at his disposal. Perhaps Janet (sterno) Reno should take him out.

3 posted on 05/07/2008 9:10:28 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: mojito

Iamahdinnerjacket is going to find out very soon who IS running Iran.


4 posted on 05/07/2008 9:10:38 AM PDT by AU72
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To: mojito
"will return one day to usher in a new era of peace and harmony "
5 posted on 05/07/2008 9:11:53 AM PDT by traumer
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To: mojito

Iammadjohn is a very confused person, not knowing what is to be said and what not to be said. Very dangerous. Fortunately, nobody is listening to him anymore, aside from those in the oil futures business.


6 posted on 05/07/2008 9:12:17 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: mojito

Now he’s praying to imaginary Iman’s.....what a nut job. Does this not speak volumes as to the mans mentality level?


7 posted on 05/07/2008 9:14:45 AM PDT by Wavrnr10
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To: mojito

Ahmawhackjob is channeling instructions from the hidden Mahdi, doing his bidding until the day (coming soon) when the 12th Mahdi rises up from the well he’s been hiding in........ don’t you dare question that great religious scholar and notable economic genius, President Ahmawhackjob.


8 posted on 05/07/2008 9:16:41 AM PDT by Enchante (Obama: My 1930s Foreign Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Social Policy!)
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To: mojito
"We must solve Iran's internal problems as quickly as possible. Time is lacking. A movement has started for us to occupy ourselves with our global responsibilities, which are arriving with great speed."

That'd be the one that worried me. Picture Hitler with his finger on the nuclear button starting to mutter about Ragnarok as the Red Army closed in. He isn't worried about inflation.

9 posted on 05/07/2008 9:16:50 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Enchante

The answer rose from the well at Maadi in 1970—OPEC


10 posted on 05/07/2008 9:18:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: mojito
Ahmanutjob puts a (sub)human face on the cold-blooded, murderous islamist regime and keeps the attention off the mullahs, who are the real power brokers in Iran. Despite what he says, I think his job is safe.


11 posted on 05/07/2008 9:21:31 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Average White Conservative)
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To: SoldierDad

Well, for the 12th Iman to appear, supposedly the world has to have fallen into chaos. Many believe that ImaNutJob is trying to provoke that chaos in order to facilitate the return of the iman. Whether they attack someone, or provoke someone to attack them (i.e. keep developing nuclear weapons)...it will serve the same purpose as far as Ahmadinejad is concerned.


12 posted on 05/07/2008 9:21:56 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

Ah, but by amadnutjob’s own words, he believes that the Imam is already in charge of the whole world.


13 posted on 05/07/2008 9:23:54 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: mojito
"We must solve Iran's internal problems as quickly as possible. Time is lacking. A movement has started for us to occupy ourselves with our global responsibilities, which are arriving with great speed."


Translation: "Our nuclear weapons program is accelerating, and we will soon have the means to wipe Israel from the face of the Earth."

Someone over there is going to take him out soon. They're starting to realize what a raving maniac they have on their hands. The mullahs don't want to live in a nuclear wasteland.
14 posted on 05/07/2008 9:32:52 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: SoldierDad
If you think the 12th Imam is bad, wait until you get a load of the 13th!
15 posted on 05/07/2008 9:34:46 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Dogbert41

I’ll see your 12th and 13th Imam’s and raise you Jesus Christ.


16 posted on 05/07/2008 9:38:02 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: nuconvert; txflake

Ping.


17 posted on 05/07/2008 9:40:30 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mojito

Maybe Nostradamus is right again...


18 posted on 05/07/2008 9:41:06 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: mojito
"If Ahmadinejad wants to say that the hidden imam is supporting the decisions of the government, it is not true," sniped Gholam Reza Mesbahi Moghadam, the spokesman of the conservative Association of Combatant Clerics. "For sure, the hidden imam does not approve of inflation of 20 percent, the high cost of living and numerous other errors," he said, according to the Kargozaran daily.

The jokes just write themselves. I like how these guys are saying Nutjob is lying, but they know the truth. One whacked out part of the world.

19 posted on 05/07/2008 9:41:37 AM PDT by doodad
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To: mojito
Nutjob is starting to worry even the clerics with this hidden imam stuff. I don't think "rebuke" is the right word. These people are afraid. And Nutjob isn't going to listent to them anyway.

Nutjob is working very hard to bring matters to a head in the near future, which means that he's eating away at the middle ground that allows him to coexist with the Mullahs who don't agree with him.

The key thing to watch will be which way the purge goes. Either the clerics will succeed in removing Ahneedajihad, or he will succeed in purging them.

My money's on Ahneedajihad's winning that particular war.

20 posted on 05/07/2008 9:46:39 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SoldierDad

Terminator, Predator and Alien could take on the hidden Imam any day of the week.


21 posted on 05/07/2008 9:49:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: mojito
"If Ahmadinejad wants to say that the hidden imam is supporting the decisions of the government, it is not true,"

That doesn't exactly fit neatly into my concept of Matesian logic. Is there an Islamo-version?

HF

22 posted on 05/07/2008 10:06:58 AM PDT by holden
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To: mojito

Yeah right, and when the twelvth imam magically reappears, King Arthur will rise right along with him and whip his sorry @55 like it was 1095.


23 posted on 05/07/2008 10:13:27 AM PDT by Eepsy (12-26-2008 +1)
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To: All
For those interested, follow this link for a comprehensive Iranian News Roundup at National Review’s The Corner:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzkyZGE3YjdjMTMwNGMyNDBjY2I2NzEyZGU2NWU1Mzg=

24 posted on 05/07/2008 10:37:45 AM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

So the mullahs don’t like ‘Iwannajihad’ poaching on their territory, huh? This could make for some very interesting internal struggles in Iran.


25 posted on 05/07/2008 10:51:46 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: mojito

Why not say Harry Potter is going to reincarnate and lead these people to peace and prosperity. Someone posted earlier that Persians actually supported the Jews. the Iranians I have known are gentle caring people. This was during the time of the Shah.


26 posted on 05/07/2008 11:03:04 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you, Jimmy Carter for all you've done to make the world a safer place.)
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To: traumer

That’s scary.


27 posted on 05/07/2008 1:16:34 PM PDT by norton
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To: Enchante
Ahmawhackjob is channeling instructions from the hidden Mahdi, doing his bidding until the day (coming soon) when the 12th Mahdi rises up from the well he’s been hiding in........

And just like Linus he will wait and wait but the Great Pumpkin is the master of disappointment.

28 posted on 05/07/2008 2:59:47 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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29 posted on 05/07/2008 9:58:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: mojito

12th imam bump


30 posted on 05/14/2008 6:03:43 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: mojito
Mahdi, the twelfth imam of Shiite Islam, who Shiites believe disappeared more than a thousand years ago and who will return one day

Isn't he supposed to be hiding down a well somewhere?

Ready to spring up like a jihadi-Jack-in-the-box?

31 posted on 05/14/2008 6:06:27 PM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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To: nikos1121
Why not say Harry Potter is going to reincarnate and lead these people to peace and prosperity.

HARRY IS DEAD???

32 posted on 05/14/2008 6:07:58 PM PDT by humblegunner (Che is Gay)
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To: mojito

I think if you scratch deep enough you will find that Ahmadinejad secretly believes he IS the 12 imam and is waiting for the right opportunity to reveal himself. Just saying.


33 posted on 05/14/2008 6:10:32 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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I’ll see your 12th and 13th Imam’s and raise you Jesus Christ.

You win!

34 posted on 05/14/2008 6:13:06 PM PDT by airborne (LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! LETS GO PENS!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!)
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To: airborne

Well, actually it’s not me who wins. It’s Jesus Christ.


35 posted on 05/14/2008 7:41:30 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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