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To: eleni121

Yep, and you will find similar pro-Nazi and SS units recruited from Swedes, Norwegians, Belgians, Frenchmen, Spaniards, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Italians, etc.

I do not lack knowledge of the Balkans or its history.

The Serbs were not the only victims of the Muslims/Ottoman empire. Some of the most intense resistance to them came from Albanians in fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skanderbeg

And some of the biggest collaborators with the Turks were Christian Serbians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nicopolis

- A Christian army was destroyed by the Turks with the critical assistance of collaborating Serbs.

The problem is that this whole business was extremely complex, leaving aside the basic Muslim aggression, it spun off into a mess of various resistances and accomodations and mutual antagonisms that remained once the whole jihad idea had gone away. The whole thing was more or less simple in 1389, but not in 2008.


52 posted on 05/07/2008 4:29:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

The problem is that this whole topic too complex for YOU!

It takes a lot of BS to keep posting BS.


54 posted on 05/07/2008 4:31:25 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: buwaya

“I do not lack knowledge of the Balkans or its history.”

What a silly thing to say; you haven’t a clue about Balkan history, that’s clear.


59 posted on 05/07/2008 4:43:20 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: buwaya

“I do not lack knowledge of the Balkans or its history.”

Sure you do...

Skenderbeg was of serbian origin.

“Skenderbeg, the 15th century Serb Prince of Albania:
Genealogy compiled by his descendant
Loris Castriota-Scanderbegh
and 12 W. European genealogists

This genealogy shows that Skenderbeg was descended from Branilo Castriota, his great grandfather and a Serb nobleman who was duke of Janina and Kastoria in the late 14th century. He was assassinated by a Turkish sympathizer, his lands were taken by the Ottomans and his sons, Paul & John fled to Albania & organized an anti-Ottoman resistance which Skenderbeg continued. Skenderbeg’s brother was named Stanisa (a pagan Serb name). Stanisa’s son was named Branilo a pagan Serb name. Skenderbeg’s sisters Jela, Valica and Marica also have pagan Serb names. . “

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/7681/perpjekja_2.html

“This is the most complete genealogy of the Kastriota’s that has ever been put together. According to this genealogy:

a) Skenderbeg is the great grandson of Branilo, the Serb duke of Kastoria.

b) Skenderbeg’s brother was named Stanisa, a contemporary Serbian name.

c) Stanisa’s son (Skenderbeg’s nephew) was also named Branilo.

d) Skenderbeg’s mother was Vojislava daughter of the Serb ruler of Polog

e) Skenderbeg’s sisters Valica and Jela mean ‘little wave’ and ‘dear’ in Serbian. Branilo and Stanisa are both Serbian names meaning ‘defender’ and ‘the one who stands,’ respectively. Note that neither Branilo, Stanisa, Valica nor Jela exist as Bulgarian names. “

Skenderbeg & the Kastrioti clan: Slavic noblemen

http://www.geocities.com/aia_skenderbeg/skenderbeg.html

“ALBANIAN HISTORIANS: SKENDERBEG WAS A SLAVIC PRINCE:
QUOTE #4:

Not long ago, for example, I wrote of myths and mentioned Skenderbeg and the Battle of Kosovo. I told of how the Albanians have forgotten that Skenderbeg was a Slav. I was attacked by Ismail Kadare, incensed at how I could possibly say that Skenderbeg was a Slav and that the history and culture of Albanians is on the level of Serbs.

That’s the way it is with our culture, which is mythomaniac, national-communist, romantic, self-glorifying. You can’t say anything objective without people getting angry. The Albanians are a people who still dream. That is what they are like in their conversations, their literature...In light of Hoxha and ‘pyramid schemes, Albanians are a people who still dream. That’s just the way they are...

Fatos Lubonja
famous Albanian dissident”

http://www.geocities.com/aia_skenderbeg/albanian_sources.html


88 posted on 05/08/2008 6:24:41 AM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: buwaya
>>>>>>Yep, and you will find similar pro-Nazi and SS units recruited from Swedes, Norwegians, Belgians, Frenchmen, Spaniards, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Italians, etc. I do not lack knowledge of the Balkans or its history.<<<<<<

There were no Greek nor Serb members of Waffen SS. Your attempt to water down Albanian Nazi past is sickening because they are unrepentant Nazis.

133 posted on 05/12/2008 4:29:24 AM PDT by DTA
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