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Why a Spiritual Advisor to President Bush Supports Obama
Belief Net ^ | No idea | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 05/07/2008 8:39:24 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

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To: Marysecretary
Methodists are pretty liberal, possibly not a born again reverend but just an ordained Methodist minister, liberal of course. I don’t know him so I can’t really say, but MOST methodist ministers seem to be more liberal than conservative.

That's a reasonable response, however Corbin whatever his name is made a really stupid response about Methodists.

21 posted on 05/07/2008 9:27:00 PM PDT by billva
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To: TigersEye

Great minds and all that! I promised Zo I would get him the attention he deserves. So far he’s gotten a post about him on three fairly major blogs that I frequent and I’m still trying....
I’m hoping to get him some notice on RedEye where I think he’d fit right in.


22 posted on 05/07/2008 9:32:45 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: billva
Just what does that mean?

Any "church" that belongs to the National Council of Churches (NCC) is anti-American.

23 posted on 05/07/2008 9:39:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: TigersEye
Another point, is that Wright makes the claim he is a Christian.(but we all now know that is a fraud) His church is the United church.
He's supposed to be reading from and preaching the gospel of Christ. Instead he preaching hatred and twisting the old testament to reinforce his racist, hatefilled rantings. He's dividing people with hatred, not uniting them with the love Jesus taught.

Where do these black preachers come from? Do they just one day wake up and pronounce themselves a "Reverand" put on a collar, rent a building and collect money?

It seems that what this "methodist" preacher has done as well. He seems totally blind to the teachings of the gospel of Christ, and how Wrights racist rants are in complete opposition to it.

24 posted on 05/07/2008 9:40:14 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Uriah_lost

He would fit in on Redeye. If he didn’t take it over.


25 posted on 05/07/2008 9:42:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Here is how he describes his relationship as a “spiritual advisor”:

“ How often have you been in touch during his second term? Eight or nine times a year?. I typically call him. He seldom calls me”

Sounds like just another hustler to me!


26 posted on 05/07/2008 9:44:34 PM PDT by Brandonmark (News Coverage)
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To: Dawnsblood
While the differences between President Bush and Senator Obama are very, very clear, allow me to share with you what their commonalities are. One, they have deep, resolute loyalty to their country, to their families, and to their God. They are both Christians.

But I bet President Bush can't do this...
 
Obama: Man of the World
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: March 6, 2007

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to
prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that
seemed delightfully uncalculated [...], Mr. Obama described the
call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at
sunset."

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=3&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
http://nevadathunder.com/?p=3626




----

Send treats to the troops...
Great because you did it!
www.AnySoldier.com

27 posted on 05/07/2008 9:46:50 PM PDT by JCG
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To: Nathan Zachary

“He seems totally blind to the teachings of the gospel of Christ,...”

This is nothing particularly noteworthy amongst the mega-preacher set. Look at the most popular of the “Christian” preachers today and ask yourself how well they mirror the teachings of Jesus.


28 posted on 05/07/2008 9:55:40 PM PDT by onguard
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To: TigersEye

I just dropped his vid on The Activity Pit, for all the RedEye fans to see. The show’s crew is on there a lot and I hope they pick up on it.
http://activitypit.ning.com/video/video/show?id=1981927%3AVideo%3A108325


29 posted on 05/07/2008 10:19:58 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Slight correction, I believe he is a Pastor in the even more liberal United Church of Christ.


30 posted on 05/07/2008 10:19:59 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Uriah_lost

Hey that’s great. If their fans respond well to it, and I bet they will, they will probably look into it. I’ve never been to the Redeye website. I might have to check that out now that you threw up a link.


31 posted on 05/07/2008 10:23:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Complete total garbage. No wonder President Jorge acts the way he does sometimes.


32 posted on 05/07/2008 11:02:08 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Doctor Don
May I live long enough to hear a black criticize a black leader! Probably once in a thousand years. The black populace is very intimidated by such as Al and Jesse!

Bill Cosby???

33 posted on 05/08/2008 3:53:58 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Nathan Zachary
How about 20 years worth of Sundays? Everyone else in the world who goes to church manages to work and go to church. Quit making excuses for Obama. He sat there for 20 years worth of Sundays, shouting "Amen" to Racist Wrights Sunday racist sermons. Wright: "God damn America!" Obama: "Amen" Wright: "American wwhitey invented aids to kill blacks!" Obama: "Amen".

Not only that. o-Hussein-b and michelle "la-bell" robinson let this racist marry them. Then their off-springs were baptized by him!!!

Hmmmm???

34 posted on 05/08/2008 4:02:57 AM PDT by danamco
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To: billva
Just what does that mean?

That there's a huge contingent of liberalism in the UM. There's also a very strong contingent fighting against that.

35 posted on 05/08/2008 4:19:27 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: pankot

Not according to the article.


36 posted on 05/08/2008 4:20:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: Corin Stormhands
That there's a huge contingent of liberalism in the UM. There's also a very strong contingent fighting against that.

If that is true then your first comment about United Methodist, enough said would seem to be overkill.

37 posted on 05/08/2008 8:49:57 AM PDT by billva
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To: billva; xzins

I included that because there are those who would say the UM is completely lost to socialism. It’s not. There’s an uphill battle, but it is being waged.

(and no, I’m not UM)


38 posted on 05/08/2008 8:56:35 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (What if Tony Almeida is the 12th Cylon?)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; Marysecretary; Corin Stormhands; billva; Prov3456; AppyPappy; ...
The Methodists are the farthest Left of the mainline religions except for the Jesuit Liberation Theology marxists.

I am an ordained elder in the United Methodist Church. I was ordained in 1983 and have served continuously since that time. I am also a retired active duty Army Chaplain; I served as a United Methodist. I attended Asbury Seminary, from which I received my MDiv, and I have an additional masters degree from Kansas State University.

I have been on Free Republic for a long time, since 1998, and I can hardly be described as a liberal.

Our denomination is NOT the most liberal of the mainline denominations, and if the truth be known, it is more moderate to conservative than any of the other mainlines...the Southern Baptists have seldom been included as mainline protestant.

The PCUSA, LCA, ECUSA, UCC...all the traditional mainlines are more liberal than we are.

At our just concluded 4 year General Conference, the ONLY official voice of the UMC, we made our statement on the sanctity of life STRICTER and not more lenient. We made our statement on homosexuality STRICTER and not more lenient.

Anyone familiar with our denomination knows that the conservative to moderate element of our ministers outvotes the liberal element by 65% to 35%. They know that the bulk of our people, about 85% are conservative to moderate and not liberal.

George Bush is a far better conservative example of an average United Methodist than is this pastor in Washington DC.

Do we have a large and radical element in the church that we have been fighting for decades? Yep. No doubt about it. But, they are slowly losing and we are slowly winning. It is slow going because of the nature of our church government. The General Conference meets only once every four years and that for only 10 days.

Change happens EXTREMELY SLOWLY in the UMC.

39 posted on 05/08/2008 9:21:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
included that because there are those who would say the UM is completely lost to socialism. It’s not. There’s an uphill battle, but it is being waged. (and no, I’m not UM)

Ah yes the mysterious they! They say blah blah.

You need to read post 39 by the Methodist Minister.

By the way there are those that would say that the above comment by you is without merit.

40 posted on 05/08/2008 1:55:04 PM PDT by billva
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