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City of Vallejo [California] to declare bankruptcy
Mercury News ^ | May 8, 2008

Posted on 05/08/2008 10:14:10 AM PDT by John Jorsett

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To: Slapshot68

Really! I knew firemen who had to take a second job to make ends meet. That’s just grift off-the-wall.


21 posted on 05/08/2008 10:45:55 AM PDT by Clock King (The Oligarchy will make slaves of us all)
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To: Integrityrocks

I agree they should compensated fairly but $200,000?!?!?!


22 posted on 05/08/2008 10:48:29 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Integrityrocks

http://agency.governmentjobs.com/vallejo/default.cfm?SearchLetter=F&action=agencyspecs&AgencyID=1108

That is the City of Vallejo’s HR page which lists salaries of firefighters. Looks like they actually make about $81k a yr base salary. The newspapers in California are famous for taking the top income earners in a department and posting it as if it is a regular salary, it is not. Most of the top incomes are made via overtime. Hubby is a retired firefighter and used to make tons of OT money. Of course he was gone from home for mnths at a time. The papers never mention it though.


23 posted on 05/08/2008 10:55:49 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Slapshot68

See post #23.


24 posted on 05/08/2008 10:56:46 AM PDT by sheana
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To: John Jorsett

Break out the speed traps!


25 posted on 05/08/2008 10:57:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Slapshot68; TLI
98 firefighters made more than $100,000 and 10 made more than $200,000 including overtime

It's even worse than that. See: City of Vallejo, Salaries above $100,000/yr. ML/NJ

26 posted on 05/08/2008 11:22:47 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Slapshot68

In our small town, much of the budget goes to policemen and firemen, too. These are essential services of a city, and imho they top the list. Vallejo probably does not generate huge revenues, altho it might? Isn’t it up by the Port and Suisun Bay? And more of a blue collar community?


27 posted on 05/08/2008 11:24:13 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: John Jorsett
The dramatic vote came despite a last-minute appeal by state Sen. Pat Wiggins, D-Santa Rosa, and an aide for Assemblywoman Noreen Evans for the city to avoid bankruptcy.

Santa Rosa is another liberal city that has awarded firemen 80-100 % retirement of their anual wage. Tom McClintock has been warning of this for years. His warning is that the baby boomers will be retiring from city and state jobs with these rediculous retirement packages and no money in the till to pay them.

28 posted on 05/08/2008 11:32:45 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Slapshot68

Uhm...you better sit down...they make that much money and only work...11-14 days a month..yep.


29 posted on 05/08/2008 11:38:57 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: John Jorsett

That should put a cloud on real estate titles. Residents owning real estate within the city limits must be overjoyed.


30 posted on 05/08/2008 12:14:55 PM PDT by fso301
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To: zebrahead

The salaries alone are pretty ridiculous, but it’s the retirement packages that are the real kicker. These things are better than just about anything you could get in the private sector. The equivalent salary a private-sector employee would have to make just to save an equal amount for retirement would be crazy. Easily over $100K for most employees.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 12:47:44 PM PDT by zebrahead
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To: ex-Texan
Property taxes are set at 2005 or 2006 levels.

I thought that in California, your assessment was fixed by the year you bought your house (Prop 13) + 2% per year. So if you bought a house in 1978, it would be assessed at 1978 levels, plus 2% per year. But the identical house next door that sold in 2006 would be assessed at 2006 prices.

32 posted on 05/08/2008 12:52:21 PM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: Koblenz

Most people live in a house only about five years. Most of the people purchasing houses in 1978 have probably moved on. Very few Californians stay in a community twenty years. Look it up yourself. How many people who bought houses since 2000 have had to deal with increased property taxes ___________ ? Real estate values have gone down about 40% ++++ since 2005. Tax assessments do not go down automatically. Appeals must be filed when properties are over-valued by the county.


33 posted on 05/08/2008 1:16:46 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: steveo
Local news this morning said that 66% of the city budget goes to police and fire dept. salaries.

I don't want to know how much for so-called "education" and welfare, and future unfunded obligations (retirement).

34 posted on 05/08/2008 4:20:27 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Integrityrocks
What would you consider a fair salary for a fire fighter in one of the most fire-prone areas of the country. Personally, I think firefighters deserve more than the police, but ...

You don't get out much, do you.
The nature of firefighting changed radically and permanently around the mid-60s. Their salary should have been inmmediately cut in half.

35 posted on 05/08/2008 4:24:50 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Pretty much they are... I live here and I’ve long been appalled at the utter mismanagement that goes on. Especially since the Navy Yard at Mare Island closed. This was a one-industry town with no provision for such an eventuality, though I used to tell anyone interested that Mare Island could be shut down and then this town would die. Sad to say, I was right.


36 posted on 05/08/2008 6:02:34 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: RockinRight

Thank you very much for the demographical information....


37 posted on 05/08/2008 10:24:47 PM PDT by xc1427 (It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees...Midnight Oil (Power and the Passion))
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To: steveo
Local news this morning said that 66% of the city budget goes to police and fire dept. salaries.

That's low!

38 posted on 06/09/2008 11:01:32 PM PDT by gogov
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To: ArmstedFragg
The report’s a bit inaccurate. The city budget contains a large number of accounts that are ‘dedicated’ in nature. Gas tax moneys, for instance, can’t be used to pay for anything but streets. Same with sewer fees, water bills, etc. The percentage figure quoted is actually the percentage of the General Fund, which is the fund available for the operation of city government. Sixty is sort of a normal figure in that context, I actually thought Vallejo’s public safety number was higher than 66.

That is the same information i have.

39 posted on 06/09/2008 11:06:58 PM PDT by gogov
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