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Texas: All YFZ children at risk because of common belief system
Desert News ^
| May 9, 2008
| Brian West
Posted on 05/10/2008 7:06:46 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: Lawdoc
On that basis, all Muslims also endanger their children, with a culture that denies women full rights, worships a pedophile, and often practices forced marriage and wife beating and suicide bombings.
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:49:47 AM PDT
by
tbw2
("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
To: investigateworld
Does it preach to it’s adherents to ignore common and established state law to protect minor females?
Does it create a belief that these laws should be ignored?
Does it ‘program’ young people to be sexual objects for the delight of old perverts?
Sounds like Planned Parenthood’s mantra to me.
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:49:58 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Osama Obama claims to have visited 57 states now. Can you say Potatoe Head?)
To: weegee
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:51:36 AM PDT
by
bevlar
To: TXnMA
Blanket forensic pelvis exams on hundreds of girls is in and of itself an invasion of privacy. The state is doing it’s own exploiting.
They should’ve at least conducted interviews to determine who should be examined.
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:51:39 AM PDT
by
weegee
(Osama Obama claims to have visited 57 states now. Can you say Potatoe Head?)
To: greyfoxx39
You wouldn’t want children to raised by homosexuals would you?
To: TXnMA
What exam can differentiate between a 16-yo girl, and a 17-yo girl?
Please enlighten me.
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:53:40 AM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
To: svcw
Probably more of a propaganda paper, but aren't they all?
Des·er·et –noun
1. a territory established by the Mormons in 1849 as a proposed state of the Union: was refused admission to the Union by Congress and incorporated in the newly organized Territory of Utah 1850.
2. Informal. the state of Utah
Eugene Volokh, a UCLA law professor, said courts have generally held that a parent's belief system cannot, in itself, justify a child's removal. He said, for example, that a parent might teach his child that smoking marijuana is acceptable, but only when he helps the child buy pot does he cross the line.
"The general view of the legal system is until there is an imminent risk of harm or actual harm, you can't" take the children, Volokh said.
Texas polygamist sect is accused of indoctrinating girls
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:55:00 AM PDT
by
sam_paine
(X .................................)
To: greyfoxx39
Amazing! There’s another group with a dangerous belief system. That group is given a free pass and allowed to recruit and train murderers.
Hint - that other group is not a Christian group.
To: weegee
"
Sounds like Planned Parenthoods mantra to me."
Bingo, good catch!
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posted on
05/10/2008 7:56:45 AM PDT
by
investigateworld
( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: davisfh
Could it be that some liberal judge will issue a warrant and the authorities will be knocking my door down any moment now? Perhaps conservative thinking will be forbidden in the future. "The sky is falling!
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:14:41 AM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
To: weegee
Wait until fearless leader tries to create a more ethnically equivalent society with mandated birth supression patches and enforced abortion. Get us to Chinas 1 child policy.
I remember back in 1982 at a company Christmas party the liberal wife of a co-worker telling me that she thought it was "great" that China was enforcing a 1 child policy. I asked her why she would think it great that women were forced to have abortions. Things sort of turned into mumbles. Here's a woman who is "pro-choice" praising a regime for giving no choice at all.
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:19:37 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: jpl
“Our government can now take people away based on their belief system?
I think the title is misleading. Texas thinks there is a danger because all the adults believe in pedophilia, not that they believe in something strange.
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:23:20 AM PDT
by
CodeToad
To: NYpeanut; the808bass; brytlea; pandoraou812; ricks_place; CindyDawg; Huntress; Pebcak; ...
PING!!
FReepmail to be added to the FLDS Eldorado Legal Case Ping List
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:24:21 AM PDT
by
Politicalmom
(It's the child abuse, stupid!!)
To: All
As "the largest child protection case documented in the history of the United States," DFPS or, CPS as it is commonly called, said the sheer numbers of FLDS children prevented them from pursuing other options it might have considered in a more typical case. That's a problem with net fishing.
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:25:44 AM PDT
by
TheDon
To: greyfoxx39
The sky is falling!
It's already fallen. It happened so incrementally, though, that some folks didn't notice any difference.
But it's "for the children," so there's no need to worry.
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:30:52 AM PDT
by
LearsFool
("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
Comment #37 Removed by Moderator
To: weegee; jpl; Drango; All
“They shouldve at least conducted interviews to determine who should be examined”
From the article:
*It is the department's contention that (the mothers), by their conspiracy of silence, purposefully confused the identity of the children, which forced Judge Walther to conduct the proceedings as she did.”
The new court papers claim the FLDS women have no legal standing to have the judge reverse her ruling because they have “repeatedly declined” to even identify their children and the fathers.
The document says neither the court nor the child welfare agency should “be forced to play guessing games when the safety and well-being of these children are at stake.”*
They attempted to get to the bottom of a lot of this before hand. The Sect members are their own worst enemies.
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:37:05 AM PDT
by
wolfcreek
(I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
To: patton
What exam can differentiate between a 16-yo girl, and a 17-yo girl? Stupid question.
Determination of indications of ruptured hymen and other indicators of physical sexual abuse in girls well under the age of consent would indicate that a propensity for ephebophilc or pedophilic abuse practices was typical of the "belief system/environment" -- if such were the case.
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:37:16 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
To: TXnMA
“Stupid question. “
The answer ignored the question - how do you establish age, without records?
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posted on
05/10/2008 8:38:54 AM PDT
by
patton
(cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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