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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; LadyNavyVet
McCain, in contrast, is still pushing for amnesty, although he is loathe to call it that.

Of course, you know that is a lie:

McCain would NOT support his bill from 2006

But I suppose you'll just label him a "flip-flopper" like you've never changed your mind ever. Just like President Reagan - who actually SIGNED INTO LAW AMNESTY - changed his mind. I guess he was a gutless flip-flopper, too?

205 posted on 05/10/2008 2:31:40 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
McCain would NOT support his bill from 2006

Why on earth would you expect me to believe anything stated by a demonstrable liar?

207 posted on 05/10/2008 2:34:55 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

He’s a politician on the stump and his mouth is moving. Are you actually naive enough to believe his words or the evidence of his deeds? Juan Hernandez is still his advisor, he’s still berating the Republican party for not following him off the amnesty cliff and he’s still pandering to racist hispanic groups.

If you believe for one minute he’s changed his mind about amnesty, I have some mountain property in Florida to sell you.


241 posted on 05/10/2008 4:13:43 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet ("No more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition ..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; LadyNavyVet
McCain would NOT support his bill from 2006

But I suppose you'll just label him a "flip-flopper" like you've never changed your mind ever. Just like President Reagan - who actually SIGNED INTO LAW AMNESTY - changed his mind. I guess he was a gutless flip-flopper, too?


So in McCain's own words:

"....I will have the border state governors certify the borders are secured. Then we will move onto the other aspects of this issue,...."

So John McCain will allow Huge Open Border Democrat losers like Janet Napalitano and Bill Richardson and open border RINOs like Rick Perry and Arnold make the decision as to when the border in AZ is secure?

And you do not think that as far as they are concerned the border isn't already secure enough?

Who do you think you are trying to fool?

".... I come from a border state, where we know about building walls, and vehicle barriers, and sensors, and all of the things necessary..."

So once again, we have a GOP quisling who thinks he can pass off vehicle barriers and a "Virtual Fence" as a fence that will actually stop the Illegals and you want to call that border enforcement?

And finally, please don't bring President Reagan into this and try to use him as a foil for McCain's horrendous history and current position on this issue.

Michael Reagan is already publicly on record stating that his father felt that the Amnesty bill was his one big mistake and if he had to do it over again he would have handled it totally differently.
282 posted on 05/10/2008 10:07:09 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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