Looks like many of these self destructive American Jews would have made fine Kapos given the chance.
Posted on 05/12/2008 12:48:32 AM PDT by NoLibZone
lol. It's the unleavened bread. Makes us feel deprived. We demand Universal Yeast Care.
These results may not be quite as bad as the numbers seem because:
(1) Most polls have built in statistical biases that tend to overpoll support for 'Rats.
(2) The poll, if I understand correctly, was done in March, perhaps before the Rev. Wright problem was exposed and/or had time to be analyzed.
Please see my post # 62.
Not quite. Eisenhower did relatively well for a Republican with Jewish voters (he was associated with victory in WWII and liberation of the Nazi concentration camps), but he fell far short of obtaining a majority among Jews. Actually, the last time that Jews voted for a Republican was for Warren Harding in 1920.
Before the influx and assimilation of large numbers of eastern European Jews into to the US - from whom the majority of today's American Jews are descended - Jews regularly did vote predominantly Republican from the Civil War to the early twentieth century. Abraham Lincoln and his legend were once honored in the American Jewish community, but Lincoln was subsequently replaced in that role by Franklin D. Roosevelt.
With the proper intellectual nurturing, modern conservatism can substitute Judaism as well, or supplement Judaism very compatably. I'm sure the Jewish FReepers would agree.
It will take time to change that opinion.
You would think after the Saint Louis, no Jew would vote Democrat.
The Voyage of the Damned
The German Propaganda Ministry and the Nazi party conceived of a propaganda exercise which would demonstrate that Germany was not alone in its territorial, exclusionary hostility to Jews as a permanent minority within the political economy of their state[citation needed]. They (German propagandists) wanted to demonstrate that the “civilized” world agreed with their assertion that Jews constituted a continuing, “hidden-hand” of influence on national and economic affairs. They wanted to demonstrate that no other Western country or people would receive them as refugees. Firstly it would appear that the Nazis were allowing the Jewish refugees a new life in Havana.
The Nazis were aware of rising western antisemitism and correctly surmised that these Jews, traveling on tourist visas (not immigrant visas), would not be able to visit Cuba as tourists when in fact they were political/social refugees; who, for whatever reason, had been forcibly removed from Germany, their home country. Furthermore, having been refused entry in Cuba and other Atlantic nations, the plight of the refugees would force the world to admit that there was a "Jewish problem", which Germany, for all to see, were trying to resolve "humanely".[citation needed]
With no one allowing the passengers entry they would be in no position, in the future, to morally object when Germany dealt with their 'problem' Jewish population.[citation needed]
The St. Louis sailed out of Hamburg into the Atlantic Ocean in May 1939 carrying one non-Jewish and 936 (mainly German) Jewish refugees seeking asylum from Nazi persecution just before World War II.[1][2]
However, on the ship's arrival in Cuba, the passengers were refused asylum by the Cuban government under Federico Laredo Brú. This prompted a near mutiny. Two people attempted suicide and dozens more threatened to do the same. However, 29 of the refugees were able to disembark at Havana.[3]
On 4 June 1939, the St. Louis was also refused permission to unload on orders of President Roosevelt as the ship waited in the Caribbean Sea between Florida and Cuba. Initially, Roosevelt showed limited willingness to take in some of those on board despite the Immigration Act of 1924, but vehement opposition came from Roosevelt's Secretary of State, Cordell Hull, and from Southern Democrats — some of whom went so far as to threaten to withhold their support of Roosevelt in the 1940 Presidential election if this occurred.
The St. Louis then tried to enter Canada but was denied as well.[4]
The ship sailed for Europe, first stopping in England, where 288 of the passengers disembarked and were thus spared from the Holocaust. The remaining 619 passengers disembarked at Antwerp. 224 were accepted into France, 214 into Belgium and 181 into Holland, safe from Hitler's persecution until the German invasions of these countries. [5][6]
The ship without the passengers eventually sailed back to Hamburg, Germany. By using the survival rates for Jews in these countries, Thomas and Morgan-Witts estimated that 180 of the St. Louis refugees in France, along with 152 of those in Belgium and 60 of those in Holland survived the Holocaust, giving a total of 709 estimated survivors and 227 killed of the original 936 Jewish refugees.[7][8]
Later, more detailed, research by Scott Miller and Sarah Ogilvie of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has given a slightly higher total of deaths:
"Of the 620 St. Louis passengers who returned to continental Europe, we determined that eighty-seven were able to emigrate before Germany invaded western Europe on May 10, 1945. Two hundred and fifty-four passengers in Belgium, France and the Netherlands after that date died during the Holocaust. Most of these people were murdered in the killing centers of Auschwitz and Sóbibor; the rest died in internment camps, in hiding or attempting to evade the Nazis. Three hundred sixty-five of the 620 passengers who returned to continental Europe survived the war."[9] -Wiki
There are no substitutes for Judaism.
Well good on them. At least they understand one (of many) reasons they can’t tolerate either of the Dem candidates. Now if they will just study a bit more maybe they’ll get the whole picture.
Ping!
There needs to be a major re-education program initiated for over-educated Liberal Jews as well as detailed exposure of just what an anti-Semite the Obamas both are. The Obama’s disdain for Israel should be highlighted as well.
They're offended by Israelis' willingness to defend themselves. ....an alien concept to them.
No doubt about it. The Jerusalem Post has published some informative articles about Obama this year, and I pass them on to those too enamored by his oratory and color to see straight.
Not all Liberal Jews are "over-educated." Some are elderly and believe that Franklin D. Roosevelt was the greatest man to walk the face of the earth, then pass that myth down to their children and grandchildren.
...detailed exposure of just what an anti-Semite the Obamas both are...
That might help, but there's still this myth in some leftist Jewish circles that blacks can't possibly be antisemitic because they are oppressed themselves and don't control society.
so much for the world’s smartest “race” bent of self destruction (at least here)
I actually found out that I know an Obama supporter. He is very pro-Israel and it’s his understanding that Obama answered questions about Israel about the same way McCain did. But that’s what the Dems always do during an election— try to appear more moderate. What needs to be done is to publicize Obama’s record and comments about Israel, Hamas, palestinians, Iran, etc. in the past to show what his TRUE position is.
Most American Jews are, by nature, idealistic. They see the RAT party as the party of hopes and dreams that seeks to make the world better. That it has a long record of making the world worse is beside the point.
I realize this is very stupid, but it is the way things are. I converted my spouse to the GOP but have no hope of changing the mind of a single one of my crazy Jewish relatives.
Nonetheless, I do not think our parents will vote for Bambi. They believe he is a PLO sympathiser. At least they have one thing right.
Looks like many of these self destructive American Jews would have made fine Kapos given the chance.
Those Jews that believe blacks can’t possibly be anti-Semitic need to listen to the Reverend Wright and the other black leaders that are only to happy to detail how bad Jews are and how much they hate them.
For most of my fellow American Jews, being dead but politically correct is more important than living and being seen as politically incorrect.
I think that American Jews have the political viewpoint they do because they mostly are secular rather than religious Jews. Bush has been one of Israel’s best friends but many American Jews could care less about the survival of Israel. Many are willing to go-along-to-get-along with Muslims and are naive in thinking that if they isolate themselves from trouble, trouble won’t find them anyway.
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