Roger that!
Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 05/12/2008 9:18:13 AM PDT by cogitator
No, it’s Tipper.
dead: Nonsense
Gotta agree with dead. You can't seriously use the word unequivocally while putting forth some theory for the southern hemisphere which is not melting overall. Obviously that would get rid of the unequivocally. Also why use climate change, why not global warming? Climate change is natural. I agree some global warming is due to man, but we don't know how much. Cooling and warming are also natural and ongoing.
The problem is -— nothing was doctored. Don’t be so gullible. There is no reason to “stand behind Gore”— grudgingly or otherwise. He is the idiot we knew him to be.
The question is does man have any measureable affect on climate, which is impossible to measure because it is below the natural variability of the whole climate system. Man's contribution is a lugnut on the spare tire on the vehicle of global cliamate.
Besides that Al's Still Sore, the great global gasbag, could use a good smearing, he'd just be getting back some of what he has dished out over the years... Just ask Dr. Roger Revelle, the man that A$$ claims changed his life by teaching him about CO2, only A$$ misunderstood, and when Dr. Revelle called him on it, A$$ smeared him. Or ask S. Fred Singer, or William Happer, or Hugh Ellsaesser. Just a few, of a lifetime of such smears, suppressions, and cohersions.
Bring on the smears, A$$ is owed a million more.
Additionally, as was posted on FR some days agao, it is a FACT that temperatures, which were never as high as during midieval times have, for the last three years, stopped increasing and are level or have been dropping (depending on the source). Seems like the current global warming "thing" is nothing more than the same idiocy which, in 1974, caused the chicken-little panic mongerers to be crying and gnashing their teeth over global COOLING!
This year, the Antarctic ice mass is larger in area than any other time since it was measured (they started keeping track about 200 years ago). The snow melt from the Rocky Mountains is going to be WAY above normal to the point that anticipation of flooding is occurring. There are 35 egregious errors, or lies (depending on whether you believe Gore actually believes his BS), in his verdamt "movie". The incontrovertible FACT (there I go again) is that man has no significant impact on global warming.
To support "manmade" global warming requires the suspension of thought, the same as required to be a liberal-socialist democrat, a darwinist, someone who denies the WWII holocaust, someone who thinks there is no islamic holy war on anyone who will not convert to islam, and any number of other falsehoods!
There, THAT ought to sweeten the "discussion" a tad!
His facts don't stand up to much scrutiny and he disappears when challenged.
He needs more people like you to join the campaign to stop humans from scorching the planet.
That’s a good thread, I read it a while back. Basically Judith was mostly arguing about what Kerry Emmanual said or did not say in his paper and whether that represented a 180 turn like some represented it. I believe it was a switch and away from his previous warming to hurricane-strength position. But he certainly kept some connection so it was not a 180.
Yep, that's Al Gore.
The phrase “melting of the polar ice cap” refers to what’s happening in the Arctic. “melting of the polar ice caps” would cover both ends. I was indicating that the use of “unequivocally” is pretty much ridiculous. The most likely main cause, clearly, but the linkage is not unequivocal and never will be.
Exactly!!!!
Still nonsense, but getting warmer (so to speak.)
The most likely cause of variations in the size of our polar caps from year to year is the cyclical nature of our planetary weather patterns, that have been occurring for billions of years.
That is what I heard on Hannity’s America. It will be interesting to find out who is doctoring what.
Transcript of Al Gore's speech at the Sierra Summit, September 9, 2005
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There are scientific warnings now of another onrushing catastrophe. We were warned of an imminent attack by Al Qaeda; we didn't respond. We were warned the levees would break in New Orleans; we didn't respond. Now, the scientific community is warning us that the average hurricane will continue to get stronger because of global warming. A scientist at MIT has published a study well before this tragedy showing that since the 1970s, hurricanes in both the Atlantic and the Pacific have increased in duration, and in intensity, by about 50 %. The newscasters told us after Hurricane Katrina went over the southern tip of Florida that there was a particular danger for the Gulf Coast of the hurricanes becoming much stronger because it was passing over unusually warm waters in the gulf. The waters in the gulf have been unusually warm. The oceans generally have been getting warmer. And the pattern is exactly consistent with what scientists have predicted for twenty years. Two thousand scientists, in a hundred countries, engaged in the most elaborate, well organized scientific collaboration in the history of humankind, have produced long-since a consensus that we will face a string of terrible catastrophes unless we act to prepare ourselves and deal with the underlying causes of global warming. [applause] It is important to learn the lessons of what happens when scientific evidence and clear authoritative warnings are ignored in order to induce our leaders not to do it again and not to ignore the scientists again and not to leave us unprotected in the face of those threats that are facing us right now. [applause]
-snip-
Here's what I think we here understand about Hurricane Katrina and global warming. Yes, it is true that no single hurricane can be blamed on global warming. Hurricanes have come for a long time, and will continue to come in the future. Yes, it is true that the science does not definitively tell us that global warming increases the frequency of hurricanes - because yes, it is true there is a multi-decadal cycle, twenty to forty years that profoundly affects the number of hurricanes that come in any single hurricane season. But it is also true that the science is extremely clear now, that warmer oceans make the average hurricane stronger, not only makes the winds stronger, but dramatically increases the moisture from the oceans evaporating into the storm - thus magnifying its destructive power - makes the duration, as well as the intensity of the hurricane, stronger.
http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/speeches/2005-09-09algore.asp
Al Gore may not blame a single hurricane for "Global Warming," But he buts his own statements saying that they are more deadlier than before because the ocean waters are warmer.
So did warmer waters cause the Myanmar cyclone to be more intense? If Gore believes so, therefore he believes "Global Warming" did cause more death than usual than a cyclone before the time of "Global Warming," and as of consequence, "Global Warming" did cause the Myanmar disaster.
That’s what I figured. This is all just more Glowbull Warming propaganda.
Again?? How long has it been without sunspots? A month? Two? Longer??
I remember the Sun in the early part of this decade littered with sunspots like zits on a face. Good to see it so clear.
This is ablosultely amazing! The new "study" actually showed Kerry to be wrong, and showed that scientists are NOWHERE near understanding the link between global warming and storm activity as the findings were radically different than the ones from just 2 years ago.
And despite all this, we now quote this article to prove anything?
Hurricane expert reconsiders global warming's impact
"One of the most influential scientists behind the theory that global warming has intensified recent hurricane activity says he will reconsider his stand.
The hurricane expert, Kerry Emanuel of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, unveiled a novel technique for predicting future hurricane activity this week. The new work suggests that, even in a dramatically warming world, hurricane frequency and intensity may not substantially rise during the next two centuries.
The research, appearing in the March issue of Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, is all the more remarkable coming from Emanuel, a highly visible leader in his field and long an ardent proponent of a link between global warming and much stronger hurricanes."
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