Both have lengthy felony records. But they would be viewed as "victims" by some in the university community.
Posted on 05/13/2008 8:44:18 PM PDT by clawhammer
The News & Observer filed a motion Monday opposing the Orange County district attorney's request to seal the results of the autopsy of murdered UNC student Eve Carson.
Last week, Superior Court Judge Allen Baddour ordered that the results remain under seal to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation into the 22-year-old Athens, Ga., senior's death.
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The DA seems to be keeping things quiet about the circumstances of the case so as not to stir up anything contrary to the "blame society, not the killers" mindset in Chapel Hill. A death sentence has not been handed down by a Chapel Hill jury in many decades and probably won't in this case either.
Anything other than the death penalty makes a joke of justice.
So, were the perps minorities?
Is that why this is all hush-hush?
We have our own case in Los Angeles where a young black man was shot by an illegal, who should have been in jail, if the county jail had just done their job and checked the perps citizenship.
Now the DA wants to smear the murdered boy as a gang member, so that the families request for a hate crime count, can not go forward. And they are threatening to continue to smear this young man, because the family wants to have Special Order Forty changed to allow the police to go after illegal gang members, which the DA does NOT want to do!
That is awful that that the area this happened in is so cowardly. Shame on them for looking the other way in the face of clear evil.
Chapel Hill is known for its liberal politics and very tolerant juries. A number of years ago, a female jogger was accosted on a jogging path by a man who was intent on attacking and raping her. She used pepper spray to try to defend herself, but he promptly pulled out a handgun and shot her five times at near point blank range. The jury could not find this was an act of first degree murder for he had, in their view, been “provoked” by her use of the spray.
There hardly seems to be any anger in Chapel Hill about this crime. Rather, the academia is intent on looking at Carson’s death as “society’s fault” rather than the two perps in this case. There hasn’t been a single expression of “let’s seek justice” in the media. Her folks in Athens haven’t said anything to that effect either.
In all likelihood, the DA is going to stall to give the perps enough time to work out a plea deal and forego a trial in this case.
“work out a plea deal and forego a trial in this case.”
My idea of a deal in this case is lethal injection instead of being drawn and quartered.
No lethal injection for those monsters. Drawn and quartering is just sentence. If people are too squeamish for that I suggest a hanging.
“Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.”
The Color of Crime, 2005
This is all the more remarkable when you consider that there are about 6-7X as many whites as blacks.
It will be a very cold day in hell when this type of statistic gets into the MSM. If the numbers were reversed you would never hear the end of it.
Ping.
“There hardly seems to be any anger in Chapel Hill about this crime. Rather, the academia is intent on looking at Carson’s death as “society’s fault” rather than the two perps in this case.”
Prozac and sleeping pills will wash away all remnants of guilt and remove any passion for justice or truth.
WTF ever happened to “No Justice, No Peace!”?
Are’nt the Section 8 pads in South Central due for a new HD to replace the 27” sets liberated in 1992? Have even the Afro-American crowd tossed in the towel to our “friendly neighbor to the South”?
I am glad I left CA. You know Aztlan is not too far away when LA county is willing to screw over the black community to stay on the right side of the name ends with z crowd.
No NO let them go. In front of a bunch of guys with shot guns. Someone yell PULL!
The message boards at Inside Carolina were filled with Eve Carson stuff for about a week; then as soon as the ACC tournament kicked in, it was as though it had never happened:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1414Rather, the academia is intent on looking at Carson’s death as “society’s fault” rather than the two perps in this case. There hasn’t been a single expression of “let’s seek justice” in the media.
The liberal mind can't deal with the Eve Carson case because her story exposes all the internal contradictions inherent to the liberal approach to our looming demographic disaster.
Eve Carson was the perfect little poster child for liberal guilt and liberal race assuagement & race appeasement; she travelled to Ecuador, Egypt and Ghana, she studied in Cuba, and she tutored at Frank Porter Graham Elementary School and Githens Middle School:
Frank Porter Graham Elementary SchoolThe liberal mind just can't fathom how the natives could rise up and slaughter someone with such stellar bona fides, so the liberal mind has to segment off the information, build a wall around it, and forget that it exists - and ultimately deny that it ever existed in the first place.
29% Black, 14% Hispanic
http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59134Sherwood Githens Middle School
56% Black, 19% Hispanic
http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/59308
To do otherwise would be to admit that their entire world view is a solipsistic fantasy - but the remedy of their denial is to delve on into even deeper solipsism and wilder fantasy.
Her folks in Athens haven’t said anything to that effect either.
I often wonder about her parents - surely she must have inherited her liberalism from them.
So what is going through her parents' minds? Have they decided that Caucasian lives are not worth living - are not worth being created in the first place - which is to say, like so many Caucasians, have they now chosen the suicidal route?
Or have they decided to forget and deny - to forget and deny that they ever had a daughter named Eve?
Or do you suppose that there has been lit in them a seething anger of rage and vengeance [and, God forbid, a desire to live]?
Here are her parents political contribution records. Very heavily Democratic.
Father:
http://newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Athens&st=GA&last=Carson&first=Robert
Mother:
http://newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Athens++++++++++++&st=GA&last=Bethke&first=Teresa
I think the crime ought to be reenacted — with the walking turds playing the part of the victim.
LA is so supremely screwed. Things will never get better, only worse. The whole place is gonna burn — sooner than later.
Both have lengthy felony records. But they would be viewed as "victims" by some in the university community.
Lord in heaven help us.
It will be truly despicable if these murders get away with it. It would be a nicer world if those seeking to free these demons were their next victims. That would be justice, for their NOT defending innocence.
Yes, but what is going through their minds now?
Are they in the upstairs bedroom, curled up in the fetal position, clutching a pillow to their stomachs with one hand, and holding a revolver in their mouths with their other?
Or are they walking around town with plastic, glassy-eyed Stepford Wives faces - smiling yet unblinking - happily greeting their acquaintances and sipping mint juleps and chatting about how nice the weather has been this spring?
Or have they experienced a profound change of heart - have they discarded & jettisoned all their old leftist beliefs & fantasies, and are they now seething with rage and preparing to get even?
That's what I'd like to know.
It could be either #1 or #3.
I find #2 unacceptable. Knowing those who have buried a child, that one is the least likely.
And it will take time for their thoughts to coalesce and form. They will be in shock for quite awhile, even a kind of denial. The world will not seem real.
Are they in the upstairs bedroom, curled up in the fetal position, clutching a pillow to their stomachs with one hand, and holding a revolver in their mouths with their other?
Or are they walking around town with plastic, glassy-eyed Stepford Wives faces - smiling yet unblinking - happily greeting their acquaintances and sipping mint juleps and chatting about how nice the weather has been this spring?
Or have they experienced a profound change of heart - have they discarded & jettisoned all their old leftist beliefs & fantasies, and are they now seething with rage and preparing to get even?
That's what I'd like to know.
Very well put. I to wonder what is going through the parents minds. I know what I'd be thinking if this was my daughter. And it wouldn't be about any Christian forgiveness, turn the other cheek and just ignore it pacifistic nonsense. The two feral hominids who committed this atrocity should be strung up and gutted like cattle.
Bob Carson:
"The irony of Eve’s murder is that she, along with these blessed friends and fellow students, are the ones who can solve the most pressing problems of this time. Please don’t attribute this to hyperbole or relate it to a father’s sadness. I see a stunningly beautiful convergence of talent and caring in this, our children’s, generation. It is the most fantastic realization.
I believe that these kids, along with their peers around the globe, can reach reasoned solutions for mitigating violence and tackling many of the inequities of poverty, prejudice, inadequate health care and under-education. This is no pie-in-the-sky wish! These kids are smart! They’re so capable.
They’re more productive because they collaborate and communicate like no generation before them. And what is even more wonderful is their generosity. Isn’t that tremendous?"
Any assessments?
I suppose they may be unable to express their feelings about this case, either numb from the shock of the sudden, unexpected loss, on the advice of the investigators in Chapel Hill, or possibly not calling for justice to be served, so as not to lose face amongst their liberal brethren in Athens, Georgia.
I do hope the latter is not the case. Something tells me that as they look out their windows at night and wonder, “why? why?” they somehow think, “Eve would have wanted to help these young men, who were disenfranchised by society...”
Here’s my assessment.
Mr Carson views his daughter’s death as a worthy loss in the greater cause of liberalism.
She was a tool. That is all.
Did her father look at her body in the morgue?
I assume it was a closed casket funeral, but I wonder if anyone from her family even had the strength of character to look at her body?
Or was it entirely a clean, hygenic, antiseptic affair, where they simply accepted the Medical Examiner's word that their daughter's corpse had been placed in the coffin which was delivered to them?
If I say much more at this point, then I'll run the risk of getting banned by the Admin Moderator, but if her father isn't consumed with a desire to gut these two baboons and feed their entrails to a barnyard full of swine, then, quite frankly, her father is inhuman.
Of course, I suppose that's what a lifetime of liberalism will do to you - it desensitizes you and dehumanizes you until you become just an empty, hollow Stepford Wife of a man - a shadow where once there was a soul.
That is horrible: cruel and inhuman.
I feel a lot less safe than I used to.
The university flew down their jet to pick up the Carsons and bring them to Chapel Hill. The body was identified by friends, not the parents.
Ms. Carson’s remains were buried privately before her funeral, thus giving it an almost detached feel.
Compare all this to the equally horrific murder of Auburn freshman Lauren Burk, there was no secret burial service beforehand. I sense that her family sees the crime against their daughter as an outrage.
While the prosecutors there in Lee County, Alabama haven’t said much, there already is an indictment where we have the main facts — she was abducted at gunpoint, told to remove her clothes (in anticipation of rape by suspect) shot in the head and left to die in the middle of highway north of town.
The investigators got a confession out of suspect Courtney Lockhart, who is probably aware of his certain fate (death row at Holman Prison). The suspects in the Eve Carson case, according to investigators, haven’t said much, probably because they know they can game the more liberal minded system up there.
Which gets back to my original question: What is going through her parents' minds?
Are they in denial, and pretending that they never had a daughter - or maybe that she's still alive, and that she'll come home to visit them after summer school finishes?
Or do they somehow maybe think that by sacrificing their own daughter they've brought themselves even greater glory in the pagan religion of Leftism?
As you've suggested in another thread KayEye, Eve may very well have become more interested with the allure of political power over pursuing medical school. Indeed, she managed to get her picture taken shaking Barack Obama's hand a few months ago. It brings to mind the photograph of a young William Jefferson Clinton shaking John Kennedy's hand decades ago.
Thanks for the ping.
It would be impossible to guess what they were thinking, as I do not understand the liberals mental workings.
That's exactly what the current PC liberalism, offer our necks to any minority or Muslim is designed to do. Strip people of their identity and humanity and make them sheep fit to be sheared. Well the liberals and criminals have a nasty surprise in store for them if they think the majority of Americans are going to sit by and watch the crime war being waged against them destroy their families and country. Many folks I've spoken to about the current social situation in America have had enough. They're going to first start with their so called elected representatives at the ballot box.
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