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Post-Gingrich Republicans Who Invented "Big Government Conservatism" Have Much To Answer For
The View from Chaos Manor ^ | Tuesday, May 13, 2008 | Jerry Pournelle

Posted on 05/15/2008 6:27:32 AM PDT by TSchmereL

. . . Democrats will control Congress. If they also control the White House, we will have a series of legislative packages that will make the Great Society look like a libertarian government. . . .

The country is in trouble. We have forgotten our founding principles, and we move inexorably toward a European style socialist state, with the only winners being an enormous bureaucracy. This will accelerate the economic decline.

The argument is to give the Democrats their head, and pick up the pieces after the inevitable crash. I think that overlooks the resilience of tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect regimes. We haven't seen much in the way of reforms in Europe. The Democrats will create new bureaucracies that can never be dismantled: an example is the Department of Education. Reagan came into office determined to abolish it. Now it owns US education, and No Child Left Behind is entrenched. The Iron Law of Bureaucracy is inexorable.

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I conclude that McCain as president is a far lesser evil than Obama would be. But there are those in whom hope springs eternal: who hold the view that Obama is not what all the evidence says he is, a left wing liberal intellectual with Chicago political connections and all the ethical implications that implies. Hope springs eternal. . . .

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; biggovernment; gingrich; gop; gopcoup; governmentspending; jerrypournelle; newt; newtgingrich; rinorevolution
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I will be voting for the loser John McCain and urging others to join me. I have little doubt he will probably lose.

Does that mean that I hope John McCain wins? Not really.

As Dante Alighieri wrote, "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here."

I am almost there.

1 posted on 05/15/2008 6:27:33 AM PDT by TSchmereL
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“If they also control the White House, we will have a series of legislative packages that will make the Great Society look like a libertarian government. . . . The country is in trouble.”

Get ready for federally mandated “Global Warming Days” where the gov’t shuts down commerce to slow CO2 emission. And while it might be nice to the have the day off, our economy will begin to resemble that of France.


2 posted on 05/15/2008 6:29:20 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: TSchmereL

No matter who wins, we lose!


3 posted on 05/15/2008 6:35:18 AM PDT by BubbaBasher (Without the 2nd amendment there would be no 1st amendment!)
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To: TSchmereL
Jerry is still around! Yeah, Jerry!

I used to read this column in Byte magazine, delivered to my door each month from 1981 until they ceased printing. It was, by far, the most respected computer magazine of its time.

Jerry is a science fiction writer, and his books, especially the ones he co-authored with Niven, are great reads.

He leans consistently conservative.

4 posted on 05/15/2008 6:35:20 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: TSchmereL

The founding fathers gave us recourse in the event this happens.

Read the 2nd admendment and the Bill of Rights.


5 posted on 05/15/2008 6:36:27 AM PDT by stockpirate (Purge the RNC and GOP of ALL SOCIALISTS . Starting with Juan McCain.)
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To: TSchmereL

It is the nature of government to grow. Trying to stop it is admirable but futile. At best, growth can be posponed for a short whie.


6 posted on 05/15/2008 6:40:55 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Loved his books (and Byte) but had no idea of his politics. Good on him!


7 posted on 05/15/2008 6:41:15 AM PDT by ScreamingGreenAlienGorilla (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: TSchmereL
Post-Gingrich Republicans Who Invented "Big Government Conservatism" Have Much To Answer For

Post-Gringrich? How about Post-Reagan. Although Gringrich was the author of the Contract for America, he was the first one to bail on it as soon as the term limitations item came up before Congress. Maybe if he could have seen the future of his not being reelected to Speaker of the House, he would have stuck with the Contract.

8 posted on 05/15/2008 6:43:10 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Slapshot68

And they all laughed when I said we need a “Climate Protection Amendment” to the Constitution, whereby the government is specifically prohibited from making any law, regulation or executive order for the purposes of changing or regulating the climate of the planet.


9 posted on 05/15/2008 6:43:16 AM PDT by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: TSchmereL

I’m doing a write in vote for Ron Paul. He is the only Republican presidential candidate who isn’t a socialist.


10 posted on 05/15/2008 6:44:09 AM PDT by grundle
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To: TSchmereL

I will be voting for Juan too, but my nose will be sore from holding it so hard.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 6:45:36 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: TSchmereL

We’re about to witness governmental tyranny on an unimaginable scale.


12 posted on 05/15/2008 6:47:44 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: BubbaBasher

Win the battle, lose the war, choice of evils be..


13 posted on 05/15/2008 6:50:18 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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Sorry. I can’t pull the lever for Johnny Mac.

I have 3 questions for anyone.

What’s the point of fighting a war on terror and supporting the troops when the ILLEGAL immigration issue is the direct result of not enforcing existing law - why have a gaping hole for anyone to crawl through on the southern border?

Why have a candidate embrace this green nonsense which is the equivalent of surrendering American economic leadership and sovereignty?

What have we accomplished by allowing foreign despots who enable terror to dictate energy policy and pricing when we restrict our own domestic fuel reserves?

I would say we are fighting many wars .. all are equally important. I would say our troops agree and understand the significance of supporting all our fights.


14 posted on 05/15/2008 6:52:17 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: grundle

Ron Paul’s chances of winning are close to zero. Why waste your vote? You will do what you want, but it makes little sense to me.


15 posted on 05/15/2008 6:52:47 AM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Maceman

It’s already beginning...the Dept of the Interior just put the polar bear on the threatened list because of “global warming.”


16 posted on 05/15/2008 6:55:35 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: ConservativeMind

I had no idea he was conservative. As I recall, “The View from Chaos Manor” was the name of his monthly column, wasn’t it?


17 posted on 05/15/2008 6:57:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TSchmereL

This country is doomed. If the Rats win, I believe we will enter a period where punishing taxes, regulations, fuel shortages, illegal immigration and inept government run health care make the problems we are having with these today make today seem like to good old days. The stupidity of the American people who think “change” is going to mean improvements to any of the above is truly amazing.
I will hold my nose and vote McLame and as many conservatives as I can in my one party state of NJ. Hopefully, he may be able to slow this inexorible march to Socialism, but I doubt it. The American people, especially the Baby-boom generation, which I am ashamed to be a member of have come of age. I’m sorry to say, this is the whiniest generation in history and they are taking the reins of power now and the country is going to suffer greatly.


18 posted on 05/15/2008 6:58:54 AM PDT by hdbc
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To: TSchmereL

I am voting for Ron Paul because I agree with him on the issues. Why should I vote for someone whom I disagree with?


19 posted on 05/15/2008 7:02:33 AM PDT by grundle
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To: Dixie Yooper

Not “Post-Reagan” either: he never submitted a balanced budget. I’m sure I’ll get flamed for saying anything bad about Reagan, but it is true

No one in either mainstream party gets high marks for fiscal discipline


20 posted on 05/15/2008 7:03:12 AM PDT by MoreGovLess (If Hillary wins in November, blame Rush!)
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