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California Supreme Court Backs Gay Marriage
California Supreme Court Webpage ^ | May 15, 2008 | California Supreme Court

Posted on 05/15/2008 10:02:52 AM PDT by NinoFan

Opinion just released.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caglbt; california; friberals; gaymarriage; heterosexualagenda; homosexualagenda; judges; lawsuit; ruling; samesexmarriage
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To: Mr. Silverback
"I recall seeing an email (I'm not certain of its accuracy) that showed how Texas could be self-sufficient on Day One if she seceded."

We are about the 15th largest economy in the world based on GDP. We have the most Fortune 500 companies than any other state.

"If you do it, I'll be at your consulate in Illinois the day it opens to apply for a visa."

A visa? Oh no, no, no... We'll have to start you off with a guest worker permit first! LOL!

101 posted on 05/15/2008 12:34:57 PM PDT by avacado
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“Accordingly, in light of the conclusions we reach concerning the constitutional questions brought to us for resolution, we determine that the language of section 300 limiting the designation of marriage to a union “between a
man and a woman” is unconstitutional and must be stricken from the statute, and that the remaining statutory language must be understood as making the designation of marriage available both to opposite-sex and same-sex couples. In
addition, because the limitation of marriage to opposite-sex couples imposed by section 308.5 can have no constitutionally permissible effect in light of the
constitutional conclusions set forth in this opinion, that provision cannot stand.

Plaintiffs are entitled to the issuance of a writ of mandate directing the appropriate state officials to take all actions necessary to effectuate our ruling in
this case so as to ensure that county clerks and other local officials throughout the state, in performing their duty to enforce the marriage statutes in their jurisdictions, apply those provisions in a manner consistent with the decision of this court. Further, as the prevailing parties, plaintiffs are entitled to their costs.
The judgment of the Court of Appeal is reversed, and the matter is remanded to that court for further action consistent with this opinion.”


102 posted on 05/15/2008 12:36:21 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon

California will be a third world country in 25 years.


103 posted on 05/15/2008 12:37:09 PM PDT by WesA
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To: Mr. Silverback
How dare you try to interfere with someone's sex life? What business is it of government's if they do it behind closed doors? And besides, animal cruelty is outlawed by most religions, so it shouldn't be a government issue, but a religious one.

We were talking about marriage, not sex. If somebody really wants to have sex with a sheep, and it's their sheep, then again, no matter how disturbing I find it, I don't see why it's anybody else's business. We don't currently recognize any legal rights for animals, so what's to stop this from happening right now? Furthermore, how is this at all related to the California Supreme Court decision?
104 posted on 05/15/2008 12:37:09 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: avacado

I’m for secession as well...there are a whole lot of us that are I bet. It is a constitutional right, correct?


105 posted on 05/15/2008 12:38:19 PM PDT by WesA
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To: svcw
Someone tell me something good, I am ready to eat chocolate cake.

You want good news? Here's the only good news there really is, and it is in two parts:

PART ONE
While we were indulging in our slime pit of immorality and depravity, and paying no mind to God whatsoever, out of the depths of His own great love for us, He betstirred Himself to come among us in frail flesh, made His appeal to us in person that we should be reconciled in our relationship to Him, and topped it all off by giving His own Self as the atoning sacrifice that sealed the deal.

PART TWO:
Participation in this plan of Reconciliation to God is contigent only upon personal belief that it is as I describe; a simple decision addressed to The Almighty affirming, "I believe You did that in my stead."

THAT is good news not because it is an end in itself, but because it is the only avenue of access to a beginning that does not end in death.

106 posted on 05/15/2008 12:38:34 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Only The Tribulation is a crucible sufficient to the emergence of a Bride fit for her Bridegroom God)
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To: WesA

Vast, uncontrolled illegal immigrantion will assure that outcome.


107 posted on 05/15/2008 12:39:14 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: SoldierDad

It might, if I were married now. I tried it twice. It didn’t agree with me.


108 posted on 05/15/2008 12:39:34 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (You like Samurai swords? I like baseball!)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

“If somebody really wants to have sex with a sheep, and it’s their sheep, then again, no matter how disturbing I find it, I don’t see why it’s anybody else’s business.”

Thank you for reminding me why I’m not a Libertarian.


109 posted on 05/15/2008 12:40:15 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Marriage is a religious institution, and the state has no business with it.

However, the family is the foundational unit of society. Without families, society as we know it cannot exist. Government has a compelling interest in furthering society, and opposite-sex couples are how we do that.

I am fine with the elimination of prohibitions against same-sex couples being together. And I think they should have the same right of individual contracts as anybody else, so if they want to leave money to each other, or allow each other to make medical decisions, go right ahead.

But I don’t think the state should have to give them special benefits. There’s no purpose for the state to encourage same-sex couples. However, there IS a purpose for the state to encourage opposite-sex couples. If they don’t people will procreate, but won’t get married, the mothers will be single moms which puts additional burden on the state, and children without parents of both sexes grow up generally less adapted than others.

There’s no purpose in encouraging same-sex couples, because if a same-sex couple decides to sleep around, they can’t have children, so there’s no change they will end up as single parents.

It is so obvious why the state has a compelling reason to encourage long-term relationships between opposite-sex couples, for the good of society because they are the ones who can make children.

And it is equally obvious that, other than that SPECIFIC benefit to the state, the state has NO interest in who is living with whom, or what their relationship is like or how they decide to share their burdens and responsibilities.

Therefore, the state should NOT have same-sex unions, only opposite-sex unions.

I will note that some people argue that only couples with children should get the benefits. First, any opposite-sex couple theoretically can have children at any time, and as I said, the state has an interest in encouraging the biological parents to stay together.

Second, we actually DO encourage these opposite-sex couples to have children, by offering child tax credits and standard deductions, paying for their child’s education, and other benefits.

A society that does not encourage procreation, and that does not encourage individuals to form small societal units to raise those children (families) will decay. The state is ill-prepared to raise children.


110 posted on 05/15/2008 12:43:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NinoFan
Oh, there's a surprise. The California Supreme Court supported the right of sodomites? Surprise, surprise, surprise.

The cultural jihad of the left continues.

111 posted on 05/15/2008 12:44:04 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Old Professer

I like it.....


112 posted on 05/15/2008 12:44:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: bvw

When they try to pay taxes or apply for government benefits, this will be reviewed.


113 posted on 05/15/2008 12:44:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: CholeraJoe

I got a couple that fit that description.......


114 posted on 05/15/2008 12:45:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: WesA
"I’m for secession as well...there are a whole lot of us that are I bet. It is a constitutional right, correct?"

About a year ago I looked into that and I think the bottom line is that it's sort of a myth that we can seceded. But wouldn't it be great to not have to worry how all the welfare queens are going to vote in the large cities of the Democratic and liberal hellholes of the East and West coasts?

And once we seceded we go chase all those liberal Californians out of Austin and get that place back to being Texas.

115 posted on 05/15/2008 12:46:10 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Resolute Conservative

In all seriousness, I truly believe that God has abandoned America and given us over to our sins. The Almighty has removed his hand from this nation and all I can say is God help us.


116 posted on 05/15/2008 12:46:28 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

thank you

My wife and I have been working very hard to get this marriage question on the ballot here in Florida and it’s good to know we did it plus know that many more people with a common decency are pout there who have morals, a normal sense of perspective and know that not all of us have been brainwashed into thinking that things like this is normal


117 posted on 05/15/2008 12:46:30 PM PDT by manc (Most Republicans go on facts, law, constitution, many others go on the pitch fork mob mentality,)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Democrats vote for marriage as well, blacks especially.

In virginia, the marriage amendment didn’t help George Allen because it had nothing to do with candidates, and the democrat successfully and falsely painted him as a racist, so when the blacks came out to vote for marriage, they voted for the democrat.


118 posted on 05/15/2008 12:46:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: NinoFan

Hey, I find it as disgusting as you, but unless we define certain legal protections for animals (which I’m not nescessarily against, by the way) there’s really no jurisidiction for the goverment there.


119 posted on 05/15/2008 12:47:04 PM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: KSoldier

It IS MSNBC reporting, after all.


120 posted on 05/15/2008 12:48:41 PM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns - but only until it is time to go to Church)
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