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Near-Miss At Airport Blamed On Airline's Effort To Save Gas
woai.com ^ | 05/15/2008

Posted on 05/15/2008 10:44:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Some air traffic controllers say they believe American Airlines is attempting to save fuel at the expense of safety, and risking the possibility of a runway collision.

The concerns stem from a near miss on a runway at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport in early April that is under investigation by the Federal Aviation Administration.

It happened as American Airlines mechanics were towing a Boeing 777 to a maintenance hangar using a high-speed tug.

Air traffic controllers told the mechanics to stop short of a runway, but they did not stop in time and pulled the jumbo jet into the path of another plane coming in for landing.

The pilot pulled up narrowly and avoided a collision, said Ric Loewen of The National Air Traffic Controllers Association.

"It was extremely close. I've heard reports of anything from 9 feet to 25 feet apart and either way that's too close for two planes to be under those circumstances," Loewen said.

If the incident had happened at night controllers said the pilot may not have seen the other plane until it was too late.

That is because at night American Airlines had been towing planes across runways without turning on any of the plane's lights that are designed to avoid a collision.

"So essentially it's just a big black hole out there at night, we can't see them. You have to remember where they are," Loewen said.

Running the lights would burn fuel and when American Airlines bought the high-speed tugs last year the goal was saving fuel by moving planes without turning on the engines or the generator that power the lights.

The Allied Pilots Association, the union that represents the Airline's pilots, questioned the decision.

"This is certainly an area where we shouldn't be taking shortcuts," said Scott Shankland of the Allied Pilots Association. "All the money you save in shortcutting procedures will be wiped out if you have an incident."

The pilots union said moving planes in the dark without lights appears to be a violation of FAA regulations.

American Airlines and the FAA had not responded to questions about that issue.

"These big planes can be hard to see at night and that could pose a problem," said DFW airport spokesman Ken Capps.

Officials at DFW Airport sent a letter to American Airlines in March asking the airline to get the planes lit.

An airport official wrote:

"While we have had many meetings and e-mail discussions on this item since last fall -- we have not had any substantial progress in meeting this goal."

American Airlines declined an interview, but released a statement saying:

"American is working with the DFW airport and the FAA to ensure that the tug and aircraft being towed are visible at night. How we will accomplish that is being discussed."

After the near miss incident in April, DFW Airport officials ordered American Airlines to park the tugs while the FAA investigates.

The airline is still using the tugs to pull planes at airports in Los Angeles, New York, San Francisco and Miami.

"I'd like to see the aircraft lit. I want to be able to see it," Loewen said. "That's how I do my job."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; nearmiss
"While we have had many meetings and e-mail discussions on this item since last fall -- we have not had any substantial progress in meeting this goal."

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Gosh. Think of all the meetings and e-mails American would have had if there had been a crash.

Gee, that would have been overwhelming.

1 posted on 05/15/2008 10:44:36 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

George Carlin: Here’s one they just made up: “near miss”. When two planes almost collide, they call it a near miss. It’s a near HIT!! A collision is a near miss.


2 posted on 05/15/2008 10:48:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And the FAA which should have fined AA and ordered the lights on the minute they found out.. have still done nothing.... THe FAA’s mandate needs to drop its role as “encouraging air travel”... Air travel is a way of life now, it doesn’t need to be promoted by the government.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 10:49:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Responsibility2nd

Energy independence now.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 10:54:02 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Responsibility2nd
Running the lights would burn fuel and when American Airlines bought the high-speed tugs last year the goal was saving fuel by moving planes without turning on the engines or the generator that power the lights.

The tug has lights. And I can't believe that it uses that much fuel to have the APU running upon gate pushback.

5 posted on 05/15/2008 10:55:33 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Running the lights would burn fuel and when American Airlines bought the high-speed tugs last year the goal was saving fuel.

This makes no sense, I believe that the tugs have electrical connection that can power the plane’s system.

This sounds to me like the pilots union trying to cover their butts.

6 posted on 05/15/2008 10:57:45 AM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Responsibility2nd
If the incident had happened at night controllers said the pilot may not have seen the other plane until it was too late.

The headline is a damn lie!!! But are tug drivers expected to understand "hold short"?

7 posted on 05/15/2008 11:00:52 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

OK - so they don’t want to crank the engines to power the electric lights... how about a portable battery-operated light that just sticks on the plane about mid-way.... How hard or expensive would that be? I would imagine I could come up with something for less than a couple hundred bucks to do the trick....


8 posted on 05/15/2008 11:20:29 AM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: usurper
This makes no sense, I believe that the tugs have electrical connection that can power the plane’s system.

Concur. If they don't it would be easy to implement.

9 posted on 05/15/2008 11:30:35 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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"American is working with the DFW airport and the FAA to ensure that the tug and aircraft being towed are visible at night. How we will accomplish that is being discussed."

Fine, discuss away. In the meantime, light the damn planes.

10 posted on 05/15/2008 11:40:59 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: milford421

Ping.


11 posted on 05/15/2008 12:53:10 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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