The author wrote that statement as though Obama only knew muslims, but isn't related to a whole bunch of them...which he is.
Just a little more obfuscation. It's almost as if the guy has something to hide...
Posted on 05/16/2008 6:52:23 PM PDT by george76
A significant number of West Virginians (and some others in America) evidently take the view that U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.
In a surpassingly depressing report from the coal-miner state on the eve of Tuesday's West Virginia primary, The Los Angeles Times noted voter views that go like this: "We do not need a Muslim to lead the good ole USA."
It would not necessarily be so horrible if this well-spoken senator from Illinois were in fact Muslim. It turns out that most Muslims, like those in the country with the world's most Muslims (Indonesia), are wonderful people who respect Allah, respect their countrymen, abhor violence and extremism, and generally would make excellent next-door neighbors.
Very early in his life, Obama lived in Indonesia, before he returned to his native Hawaii, so he had met a lot of them. As a result, he doesn't think many Muslims are so terrible. That's because most Muslims, in fact, are not terrible — no more terrible than the rest of us, Christian or otherwise.
If the American president were in fact a Muslim, you must understand that more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would want to vote for him.
(Excerpt) Read more at search.japantimes.co.jp ...
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uh duh...
west virginia racists think obama’s a muslim.
but muslims want to behead obama because he converted to christianity.
What Muslims want to behead him? I know under Sharia Law they should for coverting to Christianity, but I haven’t heard of any that want to. Do you have a source for this?
By Sha’ria law he’s muslim, but my problem with him is that he’s an incompetent ass. However, it’s too hard to create a portrait of ‘racism’ from a pallet containing nothing BUT incompetent ass, so the author obviously needed to stretch himself. This article should worry the Japanese. They’re a heckuvalot more pragmatic than most of us are so it probably does. That is a relief.
I have found all Muslim countries wanting Obama for President, and they think he will be a patsy for them, and that he will add to the Muslim take over of America.
Until they behead you and stone your daughter.
That should read, "West Virginia racist DEMOCRATS think obama's a muslim."
They would be right.
And they are right. All of America's enemies love bambi and want him to be our president. That was also true for lurch.
All moslems, if they are true followers of islam:
If he was ever a moslem and converted, he is open game for any “true” moslem and should be killed. As a matter of fact, the koran states that to even attempt to prevent assassins from killing him is an offence to allah.
Maybe many are, but not all. He conveniently neglects to mention the Bali bombing.
Well, it would be horrible to then elect a liar, who has been saying all along that he believes in Christ. If that is a lie, everything is suspect.
Yes. Any apostate from Islam must be killed. This is true in all Muslim countries, and generally true in other countries if the person in question is widely known to be an apostate, such as Salman Rushdie.
So, the question arises, how come Muslims everywhere just love Obama? He visits their countries, they hug him, and dress him in Muslim garb. Could it be that he is telling them something that he isn’t telling us?
I think so.
Mayhap! Only time will tell.
where you been?
it’s been widely reported, sliced and diced.
the most recent inflammatory article was in the nyt by edward n. luttwak:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
I’d rather not find out for sure after he gets into the White House.
Then let us all hope that Mclame (sic) wins. At least he has no ties to Islam (that we know of).
Other than having played a big part in setting up independence for the Muslim Kosovars, according to several sources.
And pass out candy in celebration when the U.S. is attacked.
Shall we add this to:
The check is in the mail.
Some of my best friends are...
A propaganda cover story CLAIM to want to behead is different than to actually want to, which is yet different than to actually behead someone.
Obama has been in places where it could have happened, if the story were true.
You know it’s really hard to tell, isn’t it? He was a Muslim for about 25 years, but now denies it. So, we really cannot believe anything he says.
Still seeking a baptismal certificate on Barack H. Obama.
I think, at minimum, the preponderance of the evidence shows he was raised as a Muslim before he lived with his grandparents.
Dishonesty about this is the biggest issue here.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2016947/posts
He is.
The author wrote that statement as though Obama only knew muslims, but isn't related to a whole bunch of them...which he is.
Just a little more obfuscation. It's almost as if the guy has something to hide...
He can bald-face lie to furthur the cause of Islam.
His religion may not now be Islam but it most definitely is Isflam. What he says is flam.
I spotted the flimflam in BJ almost twenty years ago before the electronic gun in the TV tube finished painting the first image of him. Obama is another one.
It's true that "most citizens of the Islamic world would be horrified by the fact of Senator Obama’s conversion to Christianity once it became widely known." How much more widely known does it have to be? I wonder.
Thus, I guess I have to continue to ask, why is Obama being given a pass? But, I'll add, will the pass be withdrawn once he sets foot in a Muslim country and the citizens of the Islamic world demand "justice?" I wonder.
I get that according to the Islam religion he should, but the Muslims I know support him. Someone has told them it is okay and that he is a Muslim. There is a reason they are not going after him. I am asking for a source that says a certain muslim is after him, not a repeating of the law of the Koran.
if you read my post #15
i used the word “inflammatory”
to describe luttwak’s nyt article.
if you read my post #15
i used the word “inflammatory”
to describe luttwak’s nyt article.
And conversely, if the American president were born a Muslim, but later says he is a Christian more than 1.2 billion of the world's Muslims would be honor bound to kill him as an apostate...I thought the democrats keep going on about uniters not dividers.
Hence the great difficulty of identifying a true muslim convert from a pretender. One method that never fails is to require them to rip up the koran and walk on its pages.
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I came across this video in tribute to those who lost their lives on 9/11. It made me cry. It is the most moving tribute that I have ever seen, and I think it should be required viewing for every Ameican yearly. How quickly most of us have forgotten, and have become apathetic again.
http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/
Be sure to read the author’s account of his own experiences on that day.
Would the Muslim world's new faith in us and our political system be such a bad thing?
And:
wonderful people who respect Allah
Is it just me or is this guy trying to sell us a boat load of carp? So, wonderful Muslims have "respect" for Allah, but will find "faith" in America once Obama becomes president....................
That's religious blasphemy.
So, he is not a real Muslim.
He just has a real Muslim name.
No way. Most Muslims understand that B. Huseein Obama is an agent of taqquiya, who would most likely re-convert to Islam once President.
Obama is not an apostate. He is a temporary Christian.
It would be so bad because he is denying that he is or ever was a muslim. If there wasn’t anything wrong with it in regards to his campaign, why would be run from such a notion?
This is not to say that all muslims are bad. Those who choose to lie to the kufir are intellectually dishonest.
Just like someone who won’t salute the flag is someone who may also decide to drop all of the pomp and circumstance as President. Or perhaps work towards an end that is counter to the best for this nation.
YOU must understand that not all of the world's muslims are muslim by choice. Some live in theocracies that prohibit the practice of any other faith, that persecute those of any other faith, and that impose a death penalty on any muslim who converts to any other faith.
Muslims DO believe in Christ. As a minor figure. They deny His divinity, His death by crucifixion, and His resurrection.
Here is one of a few thousand:
Sep 16, 2007: Bishop warns that Muslims who convert risk being killed unless Muslim leaders in Britain speak out in defence of the right to change faith. A poll of more than 1,000 British Muslims, conducted by the Policy Exchange think-tank this year, found that 36 per cent of Muslims aged between 16 and 24 believe those who convert to another faith should be punished by death. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2170160
You suggest that Obama is a temporary Christian, but he may only be a pretend Christian. IMHO, Wright’s church is nothing but Black Muslim with a Christian veneer, the better to sneak under the radar. They welcome Muslim members and do not require them to be baptized. Wright himself was once a Black Muslim, and for we know may still be one. His Jesus is a Black Power Jesus, to all intents and purposes.
Has Obama been baptized? If not, then he is not a Christian.
Where’s his birth certificate? Why does he refuse to release it? Where’s his baptismal record?
A few months ago, a WA PO reporter called me to inquire about my posts regarding Obama’s Muslim background. He asked me if I still thought that it was important, and I said no, except for the fact that he is lying about it and about Trinity.
Trinity is not a Christian church, not the kind of Christian church that we, as Christians know. They believe that Christ was the spiritual son of God, that he was sent as the perfect role model to teach us to love our neighbor and share (wealth redistribution). Black Liberation Theology was developed by Marxists, as what they call, an organizational praxis. A praxis is little more than a technique, it is a course of action. Black Liberation Theology is an off shoot of the Liberation Theology that the Marxist Jesuits developed in South America to organize the peasants to rebel against the government.
Now, there are all sorts of Liberation Theology, including an Islamic Liberation Theology. An interesting premise of all the Liberation Theologies is that they don’t believe in personal sin for the “oppressed people”. The only sin that an “oppressed person” can be guilty of, is not to rebel against the hegemonic oppressors, who in the case of BLT, means against the western white man. Oh, and BLT does not support any use of the military by the US.
That’s one of many sources saying that Muslims should behead apostates. No one doubts that. But how many of them are calling for Obama to be beheaded, the way they did with Rushdie? Why have there been no fatwas?
They give degrees to just about anyone nowadays, don’t they?
“This politician is in fact a Christian. If you don’t believe this, just ask Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright...” (who is a former member of NOI).
The point is not whether Obama is or is not. I noticed a spokeswoman for ISNA issued a statement the other day proclaiming that they do not consider Obama a Muslim. Of course, they only issued the statement because they desperately want the dufus elected. The point is that we cannot give Islam any room or reason to grow. Obama, the Appeaser, would do just that. We have already had an exceedingly difficult time getting Republicans to learn the finer points of Islam and our own State Department has affiliated itself with pro-Hamas American Muslim groups. I don’t want to see the awareness, the gradual awakening, go backwards. That is precisely what would happen with Obama as POTUS.
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