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If I Did That Over There, They'd Cut My Hands Off
San Diego Reader ^ | May 14, 2008 | Bill Manson

Posted on 05/17/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by Defiant

What’s it like, being Muslim in San Diego?

The question arose for me earlier this year when I decided to hit Ocean Beach on maybe the worst night of the winter. It was Wednesday, the end of market day. Rainstorms exploding in off the Pacific, marquees flapping, most market folks packing up, re-boxing their fruit. But not the guys in the black tent near where Bacon crosses Newport. From inside the gust-wrenched canvas, half a dozen men shouted to scurrying passersby to come on in for the ultimate hand-warmer. Guled and Mohammed and Abdi and Hamza and a bunch of other young Somali men were selling the thing I’d weathered the storm to find: samosas, the Middle East and India’s great snack gift to the world. Aah, yes. Down in three gulps. A beef, a vegetarian, and a Californian adaptation (cream cheese and pineapple), all enclosed in hot, golden, flaky pastry.

We got to talking. These laughing guys were all students. All Muslim. All living a double life. Studying by night, selling samosas by day at the various farmers’ markets around town, including here and at UCSD. I’d always known the Somalis were an outgoing group. Somalia embraces the longest seaboard in Africa. They’re coastal people who have survived strangers with different cultures landing on their shores for millennia.

(Excerpt) Read more at sandiegoreader.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim; sandiego
I had no idea there were so many muzzies in our area of around 2 million people. According to the article there are 100,000. Islam is incompatible with America, and someday we are going to pay a high price for Ted Kennedy's immigration legislation, that let so many unneeded and unassimilable people in.
1 posted on 05/17/2008 9:30:39 AM PDT by Defiant
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To: Defiant
And of course, the problem is that a lot of those Muzzies want to bring “that” (sharia law) over here.

Get ready for warfare, people. They have no rules, no boundaries. Expect the worst and we'll be prepared for victory.

2 posted on 05/17/2008 9:38:50 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: Defiant

Gawd, what a steaming pile of garbage. Complete puff peace on islam. Unreal.

He, Mr. Manson, maybe ask why there isn’t a single muslim country that holds to sharia law that is at least barely functional? And why EVERY single armed conflict in the world today has muslims on one side and seculars/Christians/jews/other muslims on the other?

Unfreakingbelievable.


3 posted on 05/17/2008 9:43:25 AM PDT by piytar
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bump


4 posted on 05/17/2008 9:45:23 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Defiant

All very cute and multi culti, until they gain critical mass, and then it’s our hands that will get cut off, or our heads.


5 posted on 05/17/2008 9:48:22 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Defiant

The writer must be related to Charlie, and I suppose that accounts for his affinity regarding his subjects..


6 posted on 05/17/2008 9:54:46 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Defiant

Unbelievable - these animals eat with their hands .... disgusting!


7 posted on 05/17/2008 9:57:21 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Cicero
Hands!

>> “This is the first rule,” Duali says, leaning into his meal. “Eat with your hands. The feel, the touch is almost as important as the taste. Eating with knives and forks divorces you from the feel of the food. But only bring it to your mouth with your right hand. Your left is reserved for unclean things, even though we wash our hands before every meal, of course.”<<

Dhimmi indoctrination BS!

8 posted on 05/17/2008 10:12:18 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Defiant

When the Green Flag flies over California — no more “Bacon St.!”


9 posted on 05/17/2008 10:18:54 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: ishabibble

Left hand is reserved for unclean things?

Well that’s perfect, because I’m left handed.

*evil grin*


10 posted on 05/17/2008 10:30:41 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Defiant

I would be very surprised indeed if there were 100k Muslims in the San Diego area. That’s 5% of the population, or on a national basis 15M.

I don’t care if it was quoted in the local paper as an FBI figure, I strongly suspect somebody misplaced a decimal point.


11 posted on 05/17/2008 10:32:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: ishabibble

Eat with your hands?
Of course ! And, you’re so sophisticated, wow, washing your stink finger before every meal.

Another islamic tradition that has helped the world culture expand into the vast technological marvel it has become.

What’s next?

Old guys buggering young guys being acceptable because the young guys don’t have facial hair?

Oh, wait , you’ve already got that too. No wonder left wing gays aren’t morbidly afraid of you.

Just love that crazy islamic allah crapbar thing. Peanut Butter Und Ham


12 posted on 05/17/2008 10:38:16 AM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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To: Ken522

The food there talking about is something anyone would eat with their hands. Do you eat french fries or a sandwich with a knife and fork? There is plenty else to criticize of all things.


13 posted on 05/17/2008 10:38:24 AM PDT by beachdweller
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To: Sherman Logan

I think your right. I live in San Diego and that number is way too high. Ten thousand might be right though.


14 posted on 05/17/2008 10:41:02 AM PDT by beachdweller
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To: wastedyears
I am also left-handed, and the product of 12 yrs. of Catholic education. I do not have a Palmer Method certificate because, and only because, I am left-handed.
The nuns weren't fair, and it was an excellent primer for the real world. No Palmer Method, but lots of spelling bee awards!

The Muslims wish to live in the 7th century. Fine. But they need to do it in their own part of the world, and leave our civilization alone. It's not about fair, it's about mutual survival.

15 posted on 05/17/2008 10:42:40 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Ken522

Worse than simply eating with their hands - they may at times lift food to their mouths with the LEFT hand, the one they touch to the despicable nether end of the digestive tract.

The proper manner is to keep the left hand limply beneath the table, while raising dribbling handfuls to the mouth with the right hand, meanwhile scattering crumbs and spatters on clothes and the facial hair. Knives are for threatening your neighbor with mutilation, spoons are for taking out your neighbor’s eye, and forks are for driving into the back of your neighbor’s hand as he tries to sneak one of the remaining morsals off your plate.


16 posted on 05/17/2008 10:47:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (Is John McCain headed into the Perfect Storm? You bet he is.)
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To: Defiant
All living a double life. Studying by night, selling samosas by day at the various farmers’ markets around town, including here and at UCSD.

Last I check, students on a student visa could not work ... wonder what other laws they are breaking?

Young Muslims I have known didn't want to go back since their families would force them into arranged marriages. Over here they had their dad's money, all the booze they wanted and plenty of decadent women.
17 posted on 05/17/2008 10:59:34 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Defiant
...and if they have their way and we don't stop them, the animals will do the same thing over here, Acmed.
18 posted on 05/17/2008 11:06:49 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: wastedyears
Someone should tell these guys about the two inventions of toilet paper and Kleenex.
19 posted on 05/17/2008 11:24:58 AM PDT by peeps36 (Politician = Corrupt Degenerate Loser = Ted, Nancy, Barry, Jack and Many More)
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To: Defiant

Yep. Puff Piece><p.They treat their women with IMMENSE respect, which accounts for the honor killings, no doubt.


20 posted on 05/17/2008 11:31:34 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (It would save us all a great deal of precious time if you'd just admit that I'm right.)
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To: Ken522

What do you eat with? YOur feet?


21 posted on 05/17/2008 11:41:19 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: piytar
And why EVERY single armed conflict in the world today has muslims on one side and seculars/Christians/jews/other muslims on the other?

Genesis 16:

7 The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, "Hagar, servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?" "I'm running away from my mistress Sarai," she answered.

9 Then the angel of the LORD told her, "Go back to your mistress and submit to her."

10 The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."

11 The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery.

12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

22 posted on 05/17/2008 11:42:49 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ishabibble

Palmer Method Certificate?


23 posted on 05/17/2008 11:56:31 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Grizzled Bear

That was meant as a retorical question, but you gave one very good answer!


24 posted on 05/17/2008 12:00:07 PM PDT by piytar
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To: mamelukesabre; Ken522
What do you eat with? YOur feet?

Welcome to Western Civilization!


25 posted on 05/17/2008 12:33:21 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: FormerLib

Very funny.

Do you eat:

tacos
burritos
hoagies
hamburgers
onion rings
cheeseburgers
potato chips
corn chips
gyros
pizza
grilled cheese
ruebens
tuna salad sandwiches

If so, do you use those shiny metal utinsils in pictured in your post? Or do you just use your hands?


26 posted on 05/17/2008 1:01:50 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: wastedyears

That is hardly a Muslim thing. Cultures throughout history have seen left-handedness as distinctly evil.
The word “sinister” means left-handed.
See: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sinister


27 posted on 05/17/2008 1:12:02 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Defiant

Very sweet, but it’s at best wallpapering over a religion that draws much of it’s identity from rules.

Superobvious even in this puff piece on how important it is to adhere to rules that separate you out.


28 posted on 05/17/2008 1:21:50 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Defiant
But you don’t always have to assimilate to the new place you come to. You can keep your culture.

The most telling quote of the entire article.

29 posted on 05/17/2008 1:50:56 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Ken522

LOL!

Hell yeah I eat with my fingers & drink the soup from a bowl. & when we’re in love, a couple will feed each other, putting the food in each other’s mouths. *Mizrahi pride* :D


30 posted on 05/17/2008 1:52:21 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: mountainbunny

I’m not sinister

Wow, I would have been persecuted had I lived a few hundred years ago.


31 posted on 05/17/2008 1:58:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

This writer is just practicing to be a good dhimmi .... don’t be so harsh...


32 posted on 05/17/2008 2:02:45 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: wastedyears

I’m sure you aren’t bad at all :)

But you possibly would have been treated as such just a few hundred years ago.

I have left-handed family members whom I love and adore. Odd to think that they would be seen as “bad” in another time.


33 posted on 05/17/2008 2:10:47 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: ishabibble

I’m sorry - eat with your right hand, wipe with your left. Some civilization.


34 posted on 05/17/2008 2:12:18 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Sherman Logan

There are several Muslim Mosques in San Diego County which has a pop. of over 3 million.
There are also over 30,000 Iraqis here.

The terrorists that flew into the Pentagon on 9/11 were living in San Diego over a year.


35 posted on 05/17/2008 2:15:08 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: alloysteel

Hahaha, thanks for elaborating on the eating customs of the sand-pounders.


36 posted on 05/17/2008 2:18:41 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Defiant

Friends of mine with lots of Africa experience tell me that continent-wide, Somalis are despised for being lying, cheating, stealing, entitled, groups. And that is saying a lot for Africa.


37 posted on 05/17/2008 6:29:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Nude dancing in North America)
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To: Defiant

Friends of mine with lots of Africa experience tell me that continent-wide, Somalis are despised for being lying, cheating, stealing, entitled, groups. And that is saying a lot for Africa.


38 posted on 05/17/2008 6:30:00 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Nude dancing in North America)
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To: All

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39 posted on 05/17/2008 8:19:34 PM PDT by cyberella
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To: FormerLib

I think the concern with the left hand being unclean in Islam involves the fact that they have not had the concept of toilet paper until recently, if at all. Extra yuck factor attached to the left hand.


40 posted on 05/17/2008 8:45:18 PM PDT by Defiant (McCain's big vein drains mainly from his brain.)
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To: mamelukesabre

From the article........”He has ordered me up a combo plate of baked goat meat, roasted chicken breast, salad with ranch dressing, a pile of spaghetti, and another of basmati rice”

I don’t eat salad with dressing, spaghetti, or rice with my hands. I don’t know anyone who does.


41 posted on 05/17/2008 11:23:56 PM PDT by BruceysMom (taking my half out of the middle.)
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