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To: Travis McGee
Why do Swedish socialists indulge their ideology to the point of undermining their own country? Why do Swedish socialists persist in their experiments in multiculturalism when the results seemed to threaten the very existence of their treasured socialist system?

Do they want to make their white Christian society a minority white, minority Christian society? Is it racial, in other words, do they believe that a white culture is inherently immoral? Do they believe that a Christian society is inherently immoral? In other words, are they bigots? Do they believe that a mixed culture is somehow superior?

Or, is it that their ideology is only reactive, that the idea of expressing acceptance ( as opposed to preference ) of white Christian society is somehow bigoted and must therefore be avoided at all costs? In other words, was an immigration policy that aimed only to maintain the status quo somehow bigoted because it was not affirmatively multicultural? Is one a bigot for merely accepting the condition of his birth?

Could it be that leftists, for the most part denying the existence of God and therefore theologically free as well as constitutionally compelled to play God, cannot resist experimenting with whole societies? Was the temptation for leftist God -players in Sweden to turn the whole country into a giant skinner box, where whites can be properly conditioned to accept nonwhites and nonwhites could be properly conditioned to accept the virtues of socialism, just too irresistible? Is immigration policy merely a lever to be pulled in this giant skinner box? If one declines to use immigration to condition society, is that somehow bigoted?

What are we to make of the evident failure of the left to recognize, much less acknowledge, the failures of their own experiments? We read that one professor says that the solution to failed socialism is more socialism, that is, more government provided jobs. Other leftists in Sweden evidently simply blame the victims, citing young girls for behaving like young Swedish girls. Others retreat deeper into their ideology and lash out at other countries who do not share their broad-mindedness, in this case citing Denmark for its bigotry.

Is there a need on the left to be able to say at all costs to the world , even at the price of rational respect for empirical evidence, that the difference between you unreconstructed rightists and us leftists is that you are bigots and we are not?

Does anyone see any parallels between this behavior in Sweden and the behavior in America of the leftists who support Barak Obama?


53 posted on 05/17/2008 11:27:26 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
"Does anyone see any parallels between this behavior in Sweden and the behavior in America of the leftists who support Barak Obama?"

It's been my observation that leftists have a pathological need to kick their own society (culture) in the teeth. It's how they validate themselves.

58 posted on 05/18/2008 12:15:17 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: nathanbedford
Why do Swedish socialists indulge their ideology to the point of undermining their own country? Why do Swedish socialists persist in their experiments in multiculturalism when the results seemed to threaten the very existence of their treasured socialist system? Do they want to make their white Christian society a minority white, minority Christian society? Is it racial, in other words, do they believe that a white culture is inherently immoral? Do they believe that a Christian society is inherently immoral? In other words, are they bigots? Do they believe that a mixed culture is somehow superior?

I think exactly the same evil brew is at work in the USA, just a decade or so behind Sweden. The leftists think that any means to destroy the power and influence of white European capitalism is "moral," even allowing in tens of millions of illiterate soon-to-be welfare cases from south of the border, plus Muslims and as many other third-worlders as possible. They know all of these will be a fish hook stuck in our throat, while demanding billions in social spending and destroying our economy.

65 posted on 05/18/2008 4:41:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: nathanbedford
Do they want to make their white Christian society a minority white, minority Christian society?

Sweden is functionally a post-Christian society. They have a sort of State church, largely spineless liberals (Lutheran), where everyone nominally belongs but no one attends, contributes, or cares. The end of Christianity as a cultural strength is the core of western Europe's impending demise.

They may begin to make more babies, with generous government incentives, but simply producing more passive dependent clients for the state will not save them.

In due course the moslem hordes will seize power in bloodless electoral coups and then the savagery will begin in earnest. By then it will be too late.

82 posted on 05/18/2008 6:53:29 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: nathanbedford

Good post. We have many in this coutry including some here who will jump through hoops, stand on thier head or bend over just so long as you don’t call them “racist” We have already lost S CA, S FL,and parts of NV, NM, TX AND AZ. The coward whites go bahhhhhhh don’t call me “racist”. I will help you destroy my country just don’t call me “racist”.

What ever happen to defending ourselves? We have become nation of supine pussies who are scared of shawdows and being called names.


95 posted on 05/18/2008 10:19:19 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: nathanbedford
Does anyone see any parallels between this behavior in Sweden and the behavior in America of the leftists who support Barak Obama?

Ominous parallels.

146 posted on 05/18/2008 5:57:45 PM PDT by PGalt
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