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'Fewer hurricanes' as world warms
BBC ^ | 5/18/08 | Mark Kinver

Posted on 05/18/2008 3:01:30 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Hurricanes and tropical storms will become less frequent by the end of the century as a result of climate change, US researchers have suggested.

But the scientists added their data also showed that there would be a "modest increase" in the intensity of these extreme weather events.

The findings are at odds with some other studies, which forecast a greater number of hurricanes in a warmer world.

The researchers' results appear in the journal Nature Geoscience.

The team from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (Noaa) Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (GFDL) said its findings did not support the notion that human-induced climate change was causing an increase in the number of hurricanes and tropical storms.

"There have been some studies published that have suggested that this is the case, but this modelling study does not support that idea," observed lead author Tom Knutson.

"Rather, we actually simulate a reduction in hurricane frequency in the Atlantic."

Eye of the storm

Although the study projected that there would be fewer extreme weather events in the future, Dr Knutson said that these storms were likely to be more powerful.

"The model is simulating increased intensity of the hurricanes that do occur, and also increased rainfall rates.

"This is something that has been seen in previous studies, and the IPCC use this [scenario] as a likely projection for future climate warming.

"These changes in intensity are still fairly modest in size."

A previous study by Noaa scientists showed a 4% increase in storm intensity for every 1C (1.8F) increase in sea surface temperature. Yet, he explained, this study suggested only a 1-2% increase.

A sea surface temperature (SST) above 26.5C (79.7F) is one of the key factors in the formation and feeding of a hurricane.

Over recent decades, the surfaces of most tropical oceans have warmed by up to 0.5C (0.9F), which the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) believes has been caused by an increase in greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere.

In November 2006, the global community of tropical cyclone researchers gathered at a workshop organised by the World Meteorological Organization to consider the impact of human activity on the frequency and intensity of cyclones.

In a concluding statement, the researchers said that although there was evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record, no firm conclusion could be made.

One reason for the uncertainty is the changes in observation methods used to record Atlantic hurricanes - a record that dates back to 1850.

From 1944, air reconnaissance flights were used to monitor tropical storms and hurricanes. This development allowed researchers to monitor a much greater area and not rely on ships' logs and storms reaching land.

And from the late 1960s, satellite technology has been used to monitor and track hurricanes.

Therefore, a reliable record of past hurricane activity only stretches back about 35 years.

Natural variations that affect SSTs - such as El Nino and La Nina episodes and the Atlantic Multi-decadal Oscillation - add to the difficulty of identifying the influence of human-induced climate change on the frequency and intensity of hurricanes.

Model mechanics

Dr Knutson's colleague and co-author, Isaac Held, said the team's model used a different approach to previous efforts, which gave them a high degree of confidence in their results.

Hurricane flood and wind damage (Getty Images) The researchers project a "modest increase" in future storms' intensity

"Most of the literature to date on hurricanes and climate change has used statistical techniques," he said.

"You've had time series of hurricane activity and time series of sea surface temperatures, and people correlate them."

Because there was a high degree of confidence that the sea surface temperature trend was going to continue to rise, Dr Held explained, people had "tried to conclude that hurricane activity will increase rather dramatically in the future".

"We tried to simulate the fundamental fluid dynamics and thermodynamics that control hurricane genesis in the Atlantic in a numerical model to a very high resolution."

He added that the team ran data from the past 25 years through the model, and it returned results closely correlated to what actually occurred.

"It is interesting and important to understand why it is that this model is capable of simulating an increase in hurricane activity that we have seen in recent decades, yet it predicts a decrease in the future.

"This implies that we cannot simply extrapolate the past 25 years into the future."

Dr Knutson said that he did not expect the study's findings to end the scientific debate surrounding the impact of human-induced climate change on tropical storms.

"We do not regard this study as the last word on this topic," he told reporters.

"The main point that we want to emphasise is that there is no evidence in this study that we are seeing large greenhouse-gas-driven increases in Atlantic hurricane or tropical storm frequencies."


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; fewer; globalwarming; hurricanes
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LOL, global warming: The theory no observation can disprove. If it predicts A and you see not A, they just change the theory.
1 posted on 05/18/2008 3:01:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Someone needs to track these changing positions so we can use their own words to put an end to this madness. The lefts’ words on global warming are as consistent as on the foreign policy. The best way to defeat them is to show their own inconsistencies.


2 posted on 05/18/2008 3:05:22 PM PDT by ilgipper
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Just more of the same, blowing smoke outta their collective butts. :0)


3 posted on 05/18/2008 3:06:15 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland
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To: LibWhacker; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 05/18/2008 3:06:50 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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“Hurricanes and tropical storms will become less frequent by the end of the century as a result of climate change, US researchers have suggested.

But the scientists added their data also showed that there would be a “modest increase” in the intensity of these extreme weather events. “

So less but more may occur, but in any event, it is due to global warming.


5 posted on 05/18/2008 3:07:50 PM PDT by frankjr
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First rule of liberalism - make statements based on flawed or faked science, but make them in such a way that it would be difficult to get caught.

Rule #2 - if you get caught anyway (because liberals really are not so bright), then change the theory that you push to fit the new evidence.

Rule #3 we are bound to see soon - If rule 1 and 2 above still don’t work, scream and holler, call those who prove you wrong all sorts of names like “racist”, or “pig”, and finally, threaten.


6 posted on 05/18/2008 3:10:21 PM PDT by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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Global warming is a good thing. We get well over 200” of snow a year were I live and it snowed a bit this morning. Our winter starts in mid-October and goes through April. We can’t plant in our garden until last weekend of may. We’d use less fuel and wood to heat with. For those greenies out there, save the forest and put less pollution into the atmosphere. The lower cost for heating fuel would be great for this economically depressed area. And longer growing season would mean more food and lower prices.


7 posted on 05/18/2008 3:14:34 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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See if you too can be a scientician. Do you:

If so, you too may have the makings of a scientician.

8 posted on 05/18/2008 3:15:09 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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Just change the model to match the results and then the model is perfect again.


9 posted on 05/18/2008 3:16:23 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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“Computer models.” Garbage in, garbage out.


10 posted on 05/18/2008 3:17:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (De-Globalize yourself !)
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I wish these idiots would make up their minds! In 2004 I went through 4 hurricanes. Now they tell me the earth is not warming but cooling because of Global Warming. Global cooling will Increase the amount of hurricanes now? If I buy ethanol will that offset Atlantic currents and thus avoid hurricane formations? What is the opposite of Blue? I WANT ANSWERS HERE!!!!! :-)
11 posted on 05/18/2008 3:19:59 PM PDT by Normal4me
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Global warming will cause...well, uh...whatever happens in the future...


12 posted on 05/18/2008 3:21:40 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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"The model is simulating increased intensity of the hurricanes that do occur, and also increased rainfall rates.

This is not science. This is a hobby like model trains, cars and planes. None of them are the real thing. A fake model is not the basis of policy.
13 posted on 05/18/2008 3:22:54 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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“Computer models.” Garbage in, garbage gospel out.
14 posted on 05/18/2008 3:27:00 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding. Worse followed. Worst to come.)
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A validated model is extremely valuable. Otherwise it's a junior high science project.
15 posted on 05/18/2008 3:30:40 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding. Worse followed. Worst to come.)
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Otherwise it's a junior high science project.

You are being very generous.
16 posted on 05/18/2008 3:37:08 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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I thought they were saying we would have more hurricanes and fiercer hurricanes due to global warming ..... the reason there haven’t been as many so far was due to cooling .... confusing, yes?


17 posted on 05/18/2008 3:38:48 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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I didn’t say an award winning junior high science project.


18 posted on 05/18/2008 3:48:24 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding. Worse followed. Worst to come.)
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;-)


19 posted on 05/18/2008 3:52:15 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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Perhaps -- just perhaps -- by next February when the Dems control all branches of the federal government, another cold and unusually snowy winter will dampen the enthusiasm for taxing the snot out of us to prevent global warming.

I said, "perhaps."

20 posted on 05/18/2008 5:12:06 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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