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Barack Obama Muslim apostate?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | May 19, 2008 | Shireen K. Burki

Posted on 05/18/2008 5:08:36 PM PDT by givemELL

Stafford, Va. - Osama bin Laden must be chuckling in his safe house. After all, the 2008 campaign could very well give Al Qaeda the ultimate propaganda tool: President Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim apostate.

The fact that Senator Obama – the son of a Muslim father – insists he was never a Muslim before becoming Christian is irrelevant to bin Laden. In bin Laden's eyes, Obama is a murtad fitri, the worst type of apostate, because he was blessed by Allah to be born into the true faith of Islam.

There are two types of apostates according to sharia (Islamic law) and the Hadith (sayings of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).

The first type is murtad milli, one who converted to Islam and later renounced the faith. The second, and most egregious, type is murtad fitri. It refers to a person born of a Muslim father who renounces his birthright. Two recent examples of the latter are Magdi Allam (a male Egyptian who converted to Catholicism in Italy) and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (Somali-born woman who's now an atheist). Both now face death threats.

According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.

Should Obama become US commander in chief, there is a strong likelihood that Al Qaeda's media arm, As-Sahab, will exploit his background to argue that an apostate is leading the global war on terror (read: attacks against fellow Muslims). This perception would be leveraged to galvanize sympathizers into action.

Remember: Al Qaeda's ultimate goal...

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; apostate; foreignpolicy; husseinobama; islam; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile
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Read the whole thing...it is daunting. This complements Luttwaks' piece in the NYT...http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.htm l?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

It is stranger than fiction that a candidate so antithetical in his background and associations to the culture and traditions and governmental principles of the US should ever have been presented for candidacy. Both parties have been ignorant of the impact of Manchurian candidate on our country, and, this candidacy only raises the risk ante exponentially.

1 posted on 05/18/2008 5:08:36 PM PDT by givemELL
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To: givemELL

He’s a Mac Daddy according too this nut !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU


2 posted on 05/18/2008 5:11:57 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: givemELL

No kidding!

Only in America. Land of the Idiots, Home of the politically correct.


3 posted on 05/18/2008 5:15:11 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: givemELL
According to Islamic jurisprudence, children of a Muslim father – even an apparently nonpracticing one, such as Obama's father, and irrespective of the mother's faith – are automatically Muslims. Most Muslims around the world agree: A child of a Muslim father is a Muslim. Period.

Which leaves me a bit perplexed....why does he get so much support from the muslim community when they usually attack someone like this who's proclaimed to be Christian. Maybe Obama's already winked at the Immam to let him know he doesn't take all that Jesus stuff tooooo seriously.

4 posted on 05/18/2008 5:17:04 PM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: givemELL

Wouldn’t Obama’s nomination put the lie to to the charge that America is the Great Satan if a Moslem can become a popular candidate for the presidency? I’m just saying.


5 posted on 05/18/2008 5:19:16 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Taggart_D

Maybe he gets support because if they go against him and proclaim loudly that he is a Muslim, they know there’s no way he would win. By keeping quiet, now, they have a chance to get their man in the White House. Everyone with an ounce of sense knows he’s not Christian. He just lies about it because he wants to get elected.


6 posted on 05/18/2008 5:20:38 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Taggart_D
....why does he get so much support from the muslim community when they usually attack someone like this who's proclaimed to be Christian.

Because He IS A MUSLIM.

7 posted on 05/18/2008 5:20:43 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Misterioso

See post 3 above.


8 posted on 05/18/2008 5:21:58 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: givemELL
Fascinating speculation.

If it's true that conservatives are liberals who've been mugged, then imagine President Obama getting a major punking from Osama, himself.

9 posted on 05/18/2008 5:22:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: givemELL

Obama is NOT apostate....

He is a SLEEPER !!

THAT is why he gets the “pass” from Islamic leaders...

Look no further...


10 posted on 05/18/2008 5:22:40 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: All

View this and then come back and tell me you want Baraq Hussein Mohammed Obama for your president:

http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/


11 posted on 05/18/2008 5:23:24 PM PDT by cyberella
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To: Minutemen

IMO, it’s the second coming of Adolf Hitler.


12 posted on 05/18/2008 5:26:09 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: givemELL

If he is not a Muslim, then about one billion people have a religious obligation to kill him. How is that going to bring about peace in the middle east?


13 posted on 05/18/2008 5:27:19 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: givemELL

If this is the case, wouldn’t he be a big target for a fatwah? (Don’t know if that’s the correct spelling). In our vernacular, a “hit”?

Just wondering.


14 posted on 05/18/2008 5:27:49 PM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: givemELL
So why is Obama being given a pass? Does one have to be both born a Muslim and leave and then be elected president of the U.S. to be a murtad fitri?

Al Qaeda is "waiting until he's taken the oath of office to begin branding him a traitor to the faith of his fathers."

"So it's not hard to imagine bin Laden praying that Obama wins this November."

Well, at least the author is the first (that I know of) that actually addresses the "no fatwa for Obama, the apostate of the worst kind."

That last sentence of the article..

I can see it now. Headline:

McCain poses as female Islamic expert?
McCain's CSMonitor article attacks me: Obama
Attacks obviously racial, demands UN investigation.

15 posted on 05/18/2008 5:28:42 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Taggart_D
Maybe Obama's already winked at the Immam to let him know he doesn't take all that Jesus stuff tooooo seriously.

He had a private meeting with an iman in detroit the other day,Imam Hassan Qazwini

The iman claims they spoke of the presidential race, iraq and the The arab Israeli conflict.

At the end of the meeting, Qazwini said he gave Obama a copy of new book, "American Crescent," and invited Obama to visit his center.

If he is an apostate the discussion should have been his reconciliation or his death......Obama got a new book and a Invitation to visit, speaks for itself.

16 posted on 05/18/2008 5:29:00 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kakaze

Political Correctness=Death Wish


17 posted on 05/18/2008 5:33:55 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: RachelFaith
He is a SLEEPER!! THAT is why he gets the “pass” from Islamic leaders...Look no further...

Now, that is so obvious! Why didn't I think of that? And the mainstream media are in on it, too. Plain as day, I tell ya'. Even Hillary overlooked this. Wow!

18 posted on 05/18/2008 5:35:15 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: wayoverthehill

Yes he would be. Generally the penalty is death by beheading & any Muslim has the right to carry it out. You spelled fatwah right :) A fatwah is any religious ruling, including death sentences.


19 posted on 05/18/2008 5:40:52 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Misterioso
Wouldn’t Obama’s nomination put the lie to to the charge that America is the Great Satan if a Moslem can become a popular candidate for the presidency? I’m just saying.

Being a "popular candidate" isn't enough. He must be the nominee, or jihad!

Being a nominee isn't enough. He must be the President, or jihad!

Being a President isn't enough. He must act according to sharia, or jihad!

Are you sensing a pattern here?

20 posted on 05/18/2008 5:41:17 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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