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So much for 'settled science'
National Post ^ | 2008-05-20 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 05/20/2008 7:44:34 AM PDT by Clive

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To: Clive
Global cooling is PROOF that Global Warming existed and thereby Climate Change is a FACT!

Liberal idiots certainly have this argument to use for consumption by the simpleton left.

21 posted on 05/20/2008 9:41:21 AM PDT by PISANO
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To: DBrow

To support your efforts, I propose to start a nonprofit whose goal is educating the public on your activities. We’ll do public service announcements, hold celebrity fundraising events to raise awareness, all the usual. We’ll do a full length documentary of your efforts. I might even share my Oscar with you. I’m going to need a staff, an Escalade, a helocopter, and a film crew, so I can video document your rescue efforts. Oh, and of course, I’ll need this “reasonably” funded.


22 posted on 05/20/2008 10:02:19 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (0bambi: the audacity of hype)
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To: Entrepreneur; cpdiii
OK, you guys are both on the team.

I’l type up a white paper and get a proposal off to US EPA, UN Climate council, Kresge Foundation, Carnegie, and Algor’s foundation.

What type of boat do we want (named Robinson of course). A single hull sail/diesel will be best for ice and arctic, but a trimaran is better over coral.

And how big? 80 ft?

23 posted on 05/20/2008 10:04:28 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Hoffer Rand
Great! You can be in charge of the concert. I'd like Sheryl Crowe, Madonna, and Dave Matthews to do the announcing (no music), and the Dixie Chicks in charge of security. Is Streisand still performing? She can deliver the best Save The Bears message and will bring in the “older generation”.

I'll pick Steely Dan and Tom Petty for music, anyone with other suggestions?

SAVE THE BEARS 2008

24 posted on 05/20/2008 10:09:54 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Just as long as we don’t put One-Sheet Sheryl on Port-a-Potty duty. We want people opening their wallets and giving us their money, and I’d like to be able to safely count it!


25 posted on 05/20/2008 10:15:00 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (0bambi: the audacity of hype)
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To: DBrow
This ought to do for starters...

But I don't know why you're limiting yourself to one ship. After all the fate of polar bears is at stake. What could be more important?

We'll just use our poster bear (see below) and the funds will come rolling in.

Think someone can photoshop a tear?

26 posted on 05/20/2008 11:28:14 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: MtnClimber
The UN needs to average in Al Gore’s temperature to average in to their data. Anyone got a huge rectal thermometer?


27 posted on 05/20/2008 11:31:39 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I told my lib MIL that she shouldn’t worry whether Global Warming had stopped - the same people will soon be warning us about Global Cooling and they’ll have the same answer -

reduced lifestyle, more government control, less freedom.

Don’t worry.


28 posted on 05/20/2008 11:37:25 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Entrepreneur

Ah... what a cute little soon to be vicious killer.


29 posted on 05/20/2008 11:38:24 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Entrepreneur

Ahaa, you found it! I was wondering where I left it!


30 posted on 05/20/2008 11:49:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Stalin, Mao, Castro, Obama.)
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To: DBrow

100’ at least - I write computer simulations for a living, and my computers take up a lot of space.

Never done one on climate change, but I did do one on cooling of canons - it predicted the breach temperature at the start of rifling.

Canon cooling, global cooling - what’s the diff?


31 posted on 05/20/2008 11:54:34 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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You are right, a few of these will do just fine. We can hire someone to airbrush a polar bear cub face on the sails for a few hundred grand.

The poster bear is adorable, I’d click the paypal “donate now” link if I saw that on line.

We need a supermodel too, I think Angela Lindvall would look good in a shot with that polar bear. The pair will look great on our TV ads, which will air as PSAs and be mandatory on school in-house video nets.

Come to think of it, we need a supermodel per exploration vessel, add maybe Giselle B and Lily Cole? Lindsay Ellingson?


32 posted on 05/20/2008 11:57:18 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Clive; All
Climate scientist Noel Keenlyside, leading a team from Germany's Leibniz Institute of Marine Science and the Max Planck Institute of Meteorology, for the first time entered verifiable data on ocean circulation cycles into one of the U. N.'s climate supercomputers, and the machine spit out a projection that there will be no more warming for the foreseeable future.

It's good to see that the supercomputers are FINALLY being fed some actual data as opposed to merely verifying the garbage-in, garbage-out law.

More specifically, given that the oceans cover 66-70% of the earth's surface, it's no surprise that ocean temperatures are regarded as a major indicator of global warming activity. So the slight decrease in ocean temperatures indicated by the Argo System oceanic temperature probes over the last several years reflects on the politically correct foundation of AGW alarmism, in my opinion.

Argo System ocean temperature probes
Argo System web site
Of course, Mr. Keenlyside-- long a defender of the man-made global warming theory -- was quick to add that after 2015 (or perhaps 2020), warming would resume with a vengeance.

Hopefully scientists will have more of the bugs ironed out of their global climate software by that time. ;^)

33 posted on 05/20/2008 12:02:47 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: patton
See #26, Entrepreneur has the design specs.

We'll need a computer modeler, models are much more tractable than actual climate data. Real data sometimes is not alarming enough.

Can you plot up how many more polar bear cubs will die of starvation if we continue to buy Gorebulbs (CFLs) that will stop global warming?

60 Minutes (tic tic tic): If global warming continues to stop, the critical open-ice feeding sites will ice over and the cubs will die. The following computer simulation done by the award wining patton shows what will happen if we continue our non-sustainable lifestyle of irresponsible environmental stewardship [cut to graphic] ...the more Gorebulbs we buy, the more the ice continues its crushing advance on polar bear cubs [cut to graphic 2]. Here's Angela Lindvall, spokesperson for Save the Bears 2008, to explain what you can do [dissolve to Studio 2].

34 posted on 05/20/2008 12:07:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

LOLOLOLOL - I see you have worked in this industry.

Apropos, the sails will never do - we need a pebble bed reactor for propulsion, that we may warm our share of sea water.


35 posted on 05/20/2008 12:12:29 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Amendment10
“verifying the garbage-in, garbage-out law”

Computer output is frequently regarded as being true, just because it's a computer. I heard “computer designed” as a marketing slogan many times.

When you couple this with politicians or high-level management (with business degrees, not science) you get this:

Garbage In, Gospel Out

Especially if the result fits the current program. NASA's 100,000 error-free shuttle launch calculation is an example.

36 posted on 05/20/2008 12:15:52 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Clive

My scientists can beat up your scientists.


37 posted on 05/20/2008 12:18:42 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Posting trite comments since 2000)
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To: DBrow

120 ft. and although I get seasick I would certainly be willing to suffer for science ( for a humble per diem and some time on sunny beaches, and also the chance to play with dynamite.)


38 posted on 05/20/2008 12:30:16 PM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: patton
Yup, I've modeled EMI emissions, acoustics, cosmic ray interactions (STRIM is a freeware ion interaction simulator, btw, if you need to see how far a 100 MeV sodium ion penetrates into adipose tissue, that's the platform). Accelerator physics and heavy ion transport.

I've also done some neutronics, some thermal, and some rolling sphere lightning models. Gamma/Xray transport.

If the model shows everything is as the customer expects/wants, usually there are few questions. But show that the new box with the new LCD screen may emit more than FCC will allow for hospital equipment, and expect every premise to be challenged (and a change-of-scope quote for an actual test!).

I'm going to keep the sails, so that by day they'll show the poster cub's face. at night, we'll light them up with projectors, part light show, part “informative graphics” about the plight of the bears and what we can all do to help and send money.

We'll put your ongoing sims on a bright digital projector so people in NY harbor can see your critical work flowing in process. Unless it's so windy we'd break anchor.

I think the pebble bed reactor is a great idea!

39 posted on 05/20/2008 12:31:16 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Aloysius88

OK, 120 at least.

I was thinking CL-20 instead of dynamite, we’d need development work to see if it would be suitable.

But yes, we will have a charity Boomershoot on the ice to save the bears and you can be the Boommeister. A celebrity charity boomershoot on the ice.


40 posted on 05/20/2008 12:33:46 PM PDT by DBrow
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